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Brian Keenan has died.
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it's full of stars



Joined: 26 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And if you are from Yankistan, I seem to recall you being involved in a little tussle with a bunch of magic carpet herders. Seems to be taking considerably longer than a week.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
How has Irish emancipation been economic? The Free State(the republic of Ireland) was founded in 1921.


-and remained poor until it joined the EU and recently became the celtic tiger.

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Technically emancipation in Northern Ireland has as yet not arrived. That was what Keenan was fighting for.


I see that, but guns have achieved nothing but stalemate.
Now the fighting is over, people can invest in NI and the ethnic rivalry won't matter so much.

in any case, I would say emancipation has arrived for the catholics of N.I.
they have their fair share of jobs, education and opportunities nowadays.

Unless by "emancipation" you mean becoming a majority in NI, subsuming Ulster into the Republic, and dominating the protestants? that would be triumphalism rather than emancipation.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
JMO wrote:
How has Irish emancipation been economic? The Free State(the republic of Ireland) was founded in 1921.


-and remained poor until it joined the EU and recently became the celtic tiger.

Quote:
Technically emancipation in Northern Ireland has as yet not arrived. That was what Keenan was fighting for.


I see that, but guns have achieved nothing but stalemate.
Now the fighting is over, people can invest in NI and the ethnic rivalry won't matter so much.

in any case, I would say emancipation has arrived for the catholics of N.I.
they have their fair share of jobs, education and opportunities nowadays.

Unless by "emancipation" you mean becoming a majority in NI, subsuming Ulster into the Republic, and dominating the protestants? that would be triumphalism rather than emancipation.


I see what you are saying here, but the whole, emancipation is economic thing does not follow. Ireland was free for a long long time before it became rich.

In northern ireland the attainment of civil rights has not really stemmed from the economy either.
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Bingo



Joined: 22 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Ireland is, and will, remain a part of the UK. The IRA campaign was a massive waste of time, money and lives. The IRA was also the worst violator of human rights in N. Ireland. The entire campaign, in which Keenan played a central part, was an abomination.

A shared Northern Ireland, with both communities remaining different but equal, is the way forward. A united Ireland is a pipe dream.

Goodbye Mr. Keenan. You and your ilk won't be missed.
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yawarakaijin



Joined: 08 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's full of stars wrote:
And if you are from Yankistan, I seem to recall you being involved in a little tussle with a bunch of magic carpet herders. Seems to be taking considerably longer than a week.


Buuuuurrnnnn. LOL
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's full of stars wrote:
And you said that in English on an English teachers board, while employed as an English teacher. Embarassed

I am not English; I speak English (as well as French) because they *beep* forced all native people and immigrants to speak their *beep* language.

My ancestry is Welsh and Hungarian, one *beep* dead language killed by English people and another going strong because they fought every *beep* invader to their plains for a thousand years with a a tenacity equalled only by a people like the Koreans.

Goodbye Mr, Keenan. Your kind will be missed. The Irish tried...
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it's a bummer. I'm sure the Koreans' would much rather be learning Welsh.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BS.Dos. wrote:
Yeah, it's a bummer. I'm sure the Koreans' would much rather be learning Welsh.

What a stupid thing to say. Think about it. Someone has to be the oppressor?
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What, like the French?
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the ireland



Joined: 11 May 2008
Location: korea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know i'm joining this