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sillywilly
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| So, what does the physical consist of? What kind of STD check? Like a blood test? Peeing in a cup? Are they looking for AIDS or other stuff too? Would my kid have to get a physical too if he came along with me? |
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dandandandandan
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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| I'm currently in China outside of Beijing and I want to do a public school contract in Korea. Would I have to return to the US to do the embassy interview or is it possible to do it in China? |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Home sweet home
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| dandandandandan wrote: |
| I'm currently in China outside of Beijing and I want to do a public school contract in Korea. Would I have to return to the US to do the embassy interview or is it possible to do it in China? |
Same here. I haven't lived in the US for nearly eight years. Last time I went to the embassy that's 30 minutes away. Now I've got to take a 12 hour flight from Lima to CHicago just to get my visa? |
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Curiousity
Joined: 23 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: moving on |
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This thread is incredibly long, and trawling through parts of it has only caused more confusion. I thought it may assist if I posted my situation.
I�m coming to the end of my public school contract. I started in March, and went through all of the new visa reqs at that stage. The only thing I wasn�t required to provide was an apostille. At that point, public school E2s didn�t need them.
I�ll be completing my contract at the end of February, and starting a new contract with a university in March. I imagine I�ll be getting another E2 for this job. I�m not entirely sure what is required for the new visa. Am I exempted from some requirements due to having gone through the process before? Does the fact I�m moving out of the public school system make a difference? What about apostilles?
I�ve read posts that only touch on these issues.
I�d be grateful for some guidance, or a link to a thread/post that sets is out fairly clearly. |
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superbloke
Joined: 24 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Interesting stuff. Good to know!
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:44 am Post subject: Re: moving on |
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This thread is incredibly long, and trawling through parts of it has only caused more confusion. I thought it may assist if I posted my situation.
I�m coming to the end of my public school contract. I started in March, and went through all of the new visa reqs at that stage. The only thing I wasn�t required to provide was an apostille. At that point, public school E2s didn�t need them.
I�ll be completing my contract at the end of February, and starting a new contract with a university in March. I imagine I�ll be getting another E2 for this job. I�m not entirely sure what is required for the new visa. Am I exempted from some requirements due to having gone through the process before? Does the fact I�m moving out of the public school system make a difference? What about apostilles?
I�ve read posts that only touch on these issues.
I�d be grateful for some guidance, or a link to a thread/post that sets is out fairly clearly. |
What's an apostille got to do with anything? Apostille what? If you gave immigration your criminal check/report for your current job then it's still good to use the one they have on file to apply for a new visa. All that's required now is a sealed university transcript, diploma, photos, etc. If you don't already have a sealed transcript then order one or more now. That's it. Your medical check can be done after you do a work-visa run. |
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Curiousity
Joined: 23 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: moving on |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| What's an apostille got to do with anything? Apostille what? If you gave immigration your criminal check/report for your current job then it's still good to use the one they have on file to apply for a new visa. All that's required now is a sealed university transcript, diploma, photos, etc. If you don't already have a sealed transcript then order one or more now. That's it. Your medical check can be done after you do a work-visa run. |
What I don't understand is why, exactly, I'm exempted from the apostille process by virtue of having submitted a CBC for my first visa. I was under the impression that I was required to submit a new CBC for the new visa. If that's not the case, then I'm in the clear.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but no apostille is required if original documents are produced. Assuming I rock up to immigration (most likely on a visa run to JP) with my original degree in hand, sealed transcrits, photos, and a contract, I should be good to go? How, exactly, am I going to prove that I have previously submitted a CBC. The only thing I can show them is my E2 and ARC card.
Feel free to post of link if I should be reading this somewhere!
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: moving on |
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| What's an apostille got to do with anything? Apostille what? If you gave immigration your criminal check/report for your current job then it's still good to use the one they have on file to apply for a new visa. All that's required now is a sealed university transcript, diploma, photos, etc. If you don't already have a sealed transcript then order one or more now. That's it. Your medical check can be done after you do a work-visa run. |
What I don't understand is why, exactly, I'm exempted from the apostille process by virtue of having submitted a CBC for my first visa. I was under the impression that I was required to submit a new CBC for the new visa. If that's not the case, then I'm in the clear.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but no apostille is required if original documents are produced. Assuming I rock up to immigration (most likely on a visa run to JP) with my original degree in hand, sealed transcrits, photos, and a contract, I should be good to go? How, exactly, am I going to prove that I have previously submitted a CBC. The only thing I can show them is my E2 and ARC card.
Feel free to post of link if I should be reading this somewhere!
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After you get your Visa Issuance number, you don't need any of that stuff to take to Japan for a Visa. Just take 1. You, 2. Passport, 3. Visa Issuance Number and 4. Japanese Cash. How much? At least the cost of the Visa (no sure what it is now) plus whatever you think you might need depending on housing plans shopping etc. |
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tbigdog69
Joined: 08 May 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:15 am Post subject: new rules |
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| I have been in Korea for 4 years now. On July 25th,2008 I submitted my state(Missouri,USA) criminal background check and Korean physical. I work in a private university. On March 09 I want to change jobs to another university. QUESTION. Will my documents I had approved/submitted in July 08 be enough or do I have to do it all over again for a new job? One new employer is telling me that as of Sept you need a name and fingerprint criminal background check dated after Sept 1st,2008 and a new physical/med check for new contract starting in March 09. Is this true?? |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:43 am Post subject: Re: new rules |
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| I have been in Korea for 4 years now. On July 25th,2008 I submitted my state(Missouri,USA) criminal background check and Korean physical. I work in a private university. On March 09 I want to change jobs to another university. QUESTION. Will my documents I had approved/submitted in July 08 be enough or do I have to do it all over again for a new job? One new employer is telling me that as of Sept you need a name and fingerprint criminal background check dated after Sept 1st,2008 and a new physical/med check for new contract starting in March 09. Is this true?? |
I don't know about that. I am about to work for another place, and immigration said I don't need a new background check since it's less than a year old. I wasn't told I need to do anything else. I don't think you need a fingerprint background check. I think that is what Canadians are doing, but many Americans are doing background checks without having fingerprinting done, and if your background check is not old, it shouldn't be a problem. At least, that's the impression I got. I won't be processing anything until after December 14th. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: Re: new rules |
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| I have been in Korea for 4 years now. On July 25th,2008 I submitted my state(Missouri,USA) criminal background check and Korean physical. I work in a private university. On March 09 I want to change jobs to another university. QUESTION. Will my documents I had approved/submitted in July 08 be enough or do I have to do it all over again for a new job? One new employer is telling me that as of Sept you need a name and fingerprint criminal background check dated after Sept 1st,2008 and a new physical/med check for new contract starting in March 09. Is this true?? |
I think your criminal report will be fine. The new employer has things mixed up with the Canadian VSS deal. And even then, if already teaching in Korea Canadians who submitted a criminal report for their current jobs, criminal reports with no VSS, can just transfer to a new school if 3/4 of their current contracts are completed, or if they haven't 3/4 of their contract finished, can apply for a new visa using the criminal report used for their current jobs.
You might need to do the health check again, but that's no big deal and you'll need a new sealed transcript. |
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lorenchristopher
Joined: 25 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| dandandandandan wrote: |
| I'm currently in China outside of Beijing and I want to do a public school contract in Korea. Would I have to return to the US to do the embassy interview or is it possible to do it in China? |
You do not have to return to your home country for an interview to get the E-2 visa. This applies even if you are a first-time E-2 applicant. The one condition to this rule is that you must get your university degree verified by the Korean Council for University Education (this takes about two weeks). After that, submit all the documents for your visa and, if approved, you can just hop a flight to Japan to pick it up. |
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brandonna
Joined: 30 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:49 am Post subject: Re: moving on |
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This thread is incredibly long, and trawling through parts of it has only caused more confusion. I thought it may assist if I posted my situation.
I�m coming to the end of my public school contract. I started in March, and went through all of the new visa reqs at that stage. The only thing I wasn�t required to provide was an apostille. At that point, public school E2s didn�t need them.
I�ll be completing my contract at the end of February, and starting a new contract with a university in March. I imagine I�ll be getting another E2 for this job. I�m not entirely sure what is required for the new visa. Am I exempted from some requirements due to having gone through the process before? Does the fact I�m moving out of the public school system make a difference? What about apostilles?
I�ve read posts that only touch on these issues.
I�d be grateful for some guidance, or a link to a thread/post that sets is out fairly clearly. |
Looks like you got advice saying you don't have to worry about getting another Criminal Record Check, but even though it's painful, I would simply go down to the Immigration office before or after work & get the word from the horse's mouth. The different offices seem to interpret the law differently.
Each situation seems quite unique and it may even be new to the officers who process your documents. For some reason, it seems officers rotate in and out of each office every 3-6 months. Sometimes you have different interpretations from different divisions within the same office. Make sure you get their name and business card (if possible) and write down all that's instructed of you and go from there. Actually, this isn't a bad piece of advice for everything you do in life it seems these days.
I've helped numerous teachers in our HR department process their renewals for their first CRC, but yours is new to me. The Public school position exemptions are new territory for many of the private schools out there, but I'm grateful for your post giving us a heads up for things moving forward. I hope you can post what you end up doing and best practices advice if you wouldn't mind. Thanks again for inquiring. |
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brandonna
Joined: 30 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: Re: ARC |
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| I live in northern Gyeonggido. I have an E-2 work visa but I don't yet have an Alien Registration Card (ARC). It's my understanding I have to get a physical, a drug test, and an STD test done in order to obtain an ARC. Where can I go to have this done, i.e., a specific hospital or physician's name and location? Also, is there any specific paperwork that I need give to the doctor to fill out? If so, then what's it called and where can I get it, e.g., on the Korean Immigration's website -- can you provide a link to the page with the form -- or at Uijeongbu Immigration? Thanks in advance. |
It is your school's job to arrange all of this for you. If they are not doing this for you, then your school may have many other serious problems in store for you. And, with Novemeber not so far away. they should have already done all of this and you should ahve your ARC.
Good Luck.
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I'd argue it's NOT the school's job to arrange everything for you. It might be good if they do help and arrange things for you, but just as employers do in the states or in the west with their employees regarding Immigration matters, they can advise. It's NOT their responsibility to do the actual management of the Immigration affairs. If it were, we wouldn't be here questioning, answering and helping each other on the board. |
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brandonna
Joined: 30 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:08 am Post subject: Re: Curious question |
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I'm curious as I have been interested in coming back overseas to teach again for a 3rd year in South Korea and with the new laws and the laundry list of things I have to do one thing is sticking out in my head!
Well, with the criminal background check what would actually be considered a crime in the Korean government? I just had a background/criminal check here in the states for my current job working at a retirement home, but I have gotten in trouble in my early 20s for possession, it's been like 8 years now, so do I have anything to worry about here or since I passed in the states does that mean I'll pass according to Korean standards?
Please let me know anything anyone else has went through here |
Like Ut said, chances are unlikely that you would be admitted. However, I have seen two different folks pass despite one getting a DUI and the other for a misdemeanor for stolen property, I think it was (stealing a bike). The reason why possession of drugs would have a worse chance of passing is that they take drugs here pretty seriously.
At the same time, the person who committed the misdemeanor had to do some remedial program and get a letter of good conduct which helped them enter with less problems. Also, they had taught here before and had history as you say you did -- which sometimes gives you a little more credit (having gone through the process before despite your criminal activity). If you might have something proving that you've changed for the better in written documentation, it might help you obtain the visa. I never say "never" since I've seen almost everything become possible. |
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