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I predicted it! Palin effigy ok, Obama one not!!!!!!!!
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
It seems to me there has been a surge in Republican victimhood claims recently.


They simulated hanging Sarah Palin in Hollywood. What is your response to that?
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head-in-the-clouds



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sympathy rests only with Barack Obama because black people reside in ghettos and women don't.

Unreal.
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khyber



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The sympathy rests only with Barack Obama because black people reside in ghettos and women don't.
I could have SWORN you were the poster who wrote....
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It's not that simple my friend.
in the previous post.
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bangbayed



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is either one of the effigies "OK" (as was implied in the OP)?

No, and I dare anyone to find evidence someone said either is OK.

Is one worse than the other? Well, this is what most of the arguments seem to be about. Simply stated, yes, one is worse than the other for cultural and historical reasons. For those of you who are comparing Palin to a witch, is that what you really want to be doing?
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who gives a *beep*.

You people need to chill out.
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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RFOL[sic]."Will be taken" by whom, my presumptuous little Mrs. Gopher? How many people do you claim to speak for here?


Don't quite have a full grasp of the passive voice?

In any event, it seems the answer is no. All of that posturing about private property was just smoke coming out your behind.

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Again congratulations, extremist hypocrites.


Who is the plural you're speaking to here?

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They simulated hanging Sarah Palin in Hollywood. What is your response to that?


Who is "they"?

In any case, there have been Obama hangings in Kentucky, Oregon, California, and Indiana.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/kentucky-men-arrested-hanging-obama-effigy/

Here is the CNN Anti-Christ's totally biased reporting on the issue:
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/29/palin.noose/

P.S. ROFL at your back editing. Only 2 people on this board regularly indulge in that practice: You and Regicide. Idea Embarassed Laughing
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
It seems to me there has been a surge in Republican victimhood claims recently.


They simulated hanging Sarah Palin in Hollywood. What is your response to that?


Excuse me, but your partisan slip is showing, ma'am.

These two Bubbas--
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Fischer and Bush were arrested on charges of disorderly conduct, burglary and theft by unlawful taking, police said.


Could some cops in a Border/Southern state like Kentucky be more hypersensitive about hanging a black effigy than Hollywood cops about hanging a female effigy? Hmmmm.
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head-in-the-clouds



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khyber wrote:
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The sympathy rests only with Barack Obama because black people reside in ghettos and women don't.
I could have SWORN you were the poster who wrote....
Quote:
It's not that simple my friend.
in the previous post.


hit the bricks left-wing luis
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khyber



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hit the bricks left-wing luis
....so you didn't contradict yourself then?
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Joe Boxer



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bangbayed wrote:
Is either one of the effigies "OK" (as was implied in the OP)?

No, and I dare anyone to find evidence someone said either is OK.

The guy that put it up thinks it was ok, in that he saw no problem with it.
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He says "it should be seen as art, and as within the month of October. It's Halloween, it's time to be scary it's time to be spooky."

Taken from here , last line.

Now, did he actually say "OK"? No, but I didn't imply that in my title.

bangbayed wrote:
For those of you who are comparing Palin to a witch, is that what you really want to be doing?

"Comparing her to a witch", lol!

People are comparing her effigy to the killing of women under charges of "witchcraft". That's not "comparing her to a witch".

She's being compared to the women that were executed under false charges. Do you actually believe those women were witches?

Many blacks were lynched under false charges. Does that mean that the people complaining about the Obama effigy are comparing Barrack to rapists, horse thieves, and child molesters?
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Boxer wrote:
Now, did he actually say "OK"? No, but I didn't imply that in my title.


But CNN's coverage seems to imply this, by default, in any case.

I saw an aggressive female reporter going to the guy's house in Virginia, I believe, whose wife had printed and was distributing those undeniably racist-stereotype mailers (B. Obama, fried chicken, Kool Aid, and a watermelon, etc.). She was visibly upset and accusing her interviewee of racism at his doorstep.

Where was she or someone like her from CNN, home of the crying, hand-wringing Anderson Cooper, in West Hollywood, asking -- nay confronting -- those who had staged the S. Palin hanging to justify their extremist actions? Nowhere to be seen. Why? This incident does not involve blacks. Period.

Conclusion: the left's extremism does not appear on CNN's radar as extremism. That is CNN's right. But let us be honest about what is going on here.
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bangbayed



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Boxer wrote:
The guy that put it up thinks it was ok, in that he saw no problem with it.

Thanks for stating the obvious. Rolling Eyes

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People are comparing her effigy to the killing of women under charges of "witchcraft". That's not "comparing her to a witch".

In case you didn't get it, this is reference to Palin and witchcraft that I was alluding to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkb9_zB2Pg
Not a good analogy, at least if you're a Palin defender.

And finally, this is the biggest difference.

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Arrests in Plan to Kill Obama and Black Schoolchildren

Published: October 27, 2008
WASHINGTON � Two young men who are believers in �white power� have been arrested and charged in Tennessee in what federal officials described as a plan to assassinate Senator Barack Obama and kill black children at a school.

When you find out about the Sarah Palin assassination plot attempted by two misogynists, you can get back to me.
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RJjr



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The effigies, though protected by the First Amendment, are both in poor taste. Black males have historically been the target of most of the lynchings in America and that's why more people found it inflammatory, especially since lynchings have been used as a way to intimidate blacks from being involved in the politcal process. Though it's not mainstream behavior anymore, plenty of blacks are old enough to remember the days when it was.

http://instruct.westvalley.edu/kelly/Distance_Learning/History_17B/Lecture02/Lecture02_p04.htm

As a side note, notice how poorly Obama polls in the dark states in this chart... http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/Art/NEWS/050613/Chart_Lynchings.gif
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RJjr wrote:
The effigies...are both in poor taste.


You say "poor taste" where I say "extremist." I can live with that difference. Why not simply leave it at that? Why is it necessary to argue for the moral righteousness of your own side's sufferings over the other side's? Both are equally wrong. It is wrong to fantasize about executing human beings who have not been sentenced to execution -- especially where some here claim to oppose capital punishment, let alone mob-rules justice, on principle.
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