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[The Bobster]

I noticed fiveeagles' thread with a title opposite to this is up to 10 pages but I also notice Obama hasn't been mentioned much in any of the last 3 or 4 pages of it ... I guess I should have opened this up for the contrary point of view some time ago, but I've been busy.

I�m going to try to do this without once referring to Mr Obama�s opponent, John McCain, or the GOP's veep Candidate, Sarah Palin. That�s because I personally feel he�d almost certainly be the best choice no matter who he might have run against. And, especially with Palin, we'd be repeating stuff we've been saying for a while, anyway.

I've got some more than this, but 7 is good number to get us started.

1. He has asserted and articulated what most of us know to be true, that the policies and direction of the GOP over the last 7 years have been little more than one disastrous mistake followed by another, and another after that. His campaign has focused itself on communicating this need and describing new directions for the course ahead.

2. Although he is undoubtedly a politician, he has on several occasion displayed an ability and a willingness to make difficult decisions and promote unpopular opinions even at the risk of jeopardy to his personal advancement, one example being his early opposition to the Iraq Fiasco at a time when nearly everyone else in public life felt the need to succumb or at least assent to the war fever rampant at the time, or be labeled unpatriotic. I think one way to describe this is true leadership, a stark contrast to most politicians who will merely craft a message based on the latest opinion polls, sensing the direction of the herd so they can get out in front of it and just look like they are leading people.

3. He is a gifted orator, able to exude both charisma and gravitas. The kind of changes the country needs right now are going to require someone who can not only promote some fresh and original ideas, but also be able to persuade large numbers of people that they are the best ideas around, even when the implementation will at times require sacrifices to be made.

4. Despite attempts by his opponents to muddy him, he remains relatively untainted by scandal � and most of those instances where the brush has been applied reflect only guilt-by-association, and tenuous association at that, and nothing more.

5. Aside from some experimenting with hard drugs in his � which have been described in his own memoirs rather than being revealed by the press or political enemies � he lives the clean, healthy, whole, and almost boring life of a devoted family man.

6. His stance on feminism includes a woman�s right to end an early pregnancy and displays a clear understanding and a commitment to a right of privacy and an intention to limit the reach of government into the private lives of citizens.

7. Due his background as a legal scholar, we can have some confidence that he will end the practice of circumventing, ignoring and at times completely abrogating civil liberties and constitutional protections, a situation that has been a distinctive and unfortunate hallmark of American government since the attacks of 9/11.

As I said, I have more. I'll stop by later and add a few.

[caniff]

My fingers are crossed. Hopefully voting irregularity (i.e Diebold aka Premiere) isn't too much of a factor, because otherwise this is a done deal for Obama.

[jadarite]

Voting is nothing more than a placebo effect to make the common people think they have some control and avoid uprising.

The current population of America is (2008 estimate) 305,548,000 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States

This means that the only 2 guys that have a chance, Obama or McCain (if not assasinated), will be 6.5456164006964535e-9 of the population that can take office and make the decisions for everyone else. Do you want 3.2728082003482267e-9 of the population to rule over the country?

How much closer to a dictatorship do you need to see the idiocy in this? Do you need Bush X 1000 to get the message across? 911 X 1000?

Send your ballot in, shut off your brain, stop thinking, and go back to work SLAVE!!!! Maybe, just maybe, one of the 2 people in the US we have given you the choice to vote for will be selected to pull your chains.

Solutions by Larken Rose http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=tVCDQgLyrG0

Ignore the Election by Larken Rose http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm-coaO28JU

Penn Says: Don't Watch the Debate! http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=j_k_4n5CwJY

[Ya-ta Boy]

Good list, Bob. If I may...

8. He is not contemptuous of the institution he seeks to lead. That means he will try to use the powers of government to seek solutions to the problems that beset the nation.

[agentX]

I like your list but I think it's a little flawed.
We need to focus more on his resume and on his opponent's resume than on his personality and speaking ability.

Therefore, I have 5 things voters should consider
1. He has a forward-thinking agenda when it comes to Energy Policy and Infrastructure Policy. While not Kucinich's "Apollo Project for Energy", Obama wants deficiencies in electric delivery fixed while electric cars are being mass developed.
2. He picked Joe Biden. McCain picked Sarah Palin. Need I say more?
3. He wants to incorporate Republicans and Republican input into his cabinet and plans. While I disagree with this, it gives conservatives some hope that they won't be shut out of government much how Bush shut progressives out of government.
4. He is not tied to lobbyists who foment chaos throughout the world. See Randy Schunamann and the Georgian conflict.
5. He is not erratic like McCain is.

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

McCain also said he would put democrats in the cabinet.

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

[The Bobster]