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The dreaded flu and the flu vaccination
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CabbageTownRoyals



Joined: 14 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: The dreaded flu and the flu vaccination Reply with quote

I've actually got the flu right now and its been so long since I've had it, I'd forgotten how hellish is really is~ body aches, fever, splitting headaches, exhaustion. Feels like I've been hit by a freight train basically.

Anyways. Do you know much about the flu shot? I've never had it before, cuz in NZ its recommended only for children/elderly. And I know it only covers the main strains but I just don't want to go through this more than once this winter.....

I'm also wondering if its worth getting after one has already had one strain of the flu?
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Beeyee



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please type the words 'Flu Shot' and 'Alzheimers' in to Google before you consider this lethal concoction.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question. I'd recommend 1) Vitamin C every day, 2) Lots of sleep, 3) Airing out your classroom as much as possible and 4) Staying away from sick people.

Oh, and if this is your FIRST winter in Korea, expect Koreans (students, teachers, strangers on the subway) to be sick 100% of the time. If you are on the subway, stand as close to the door as possible. You'll thank me later.

As for the actual shot- nahhhhh. You had it.
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CabbageTownRoyals



Joined: 14 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I did look into it, seems a little controversial. Its like most inoculations, all doctors seem to have a different opinion, but the truth is, we don't know the truth about the long-term effects of many very modern drugs etc.

I'll def. give it a miss this year, but am still not certain about future shots.

I'm still curious to hear about other people's experiences with it tho..
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MrRogers



Joined: 29 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have taken flu vaccinations for many years and they have always helped me - while I see others drop like sprayed flies - and I have a weak immune system

I firmly believe in flu vaccinations!!

along with vitamins, herbs, wet wipes everywhere, SALINE to clean out your sinuses, and washing one's hands every other minute with hot water and soap after leaving public places, computers, and school/kids environment (don't touch the doorknobs!! or wash your hands with soap and hot water - of course impossible to do at ALL the nine schools I go to - so I use wet wipes then and sterilize when I return home)

also - wipe down your cell phone, computer and other personal items you touch with wet wipes and dry with tissues
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Zulethe



Joined: 04 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not take the flu shot, or antiboitics unless absolutely necessary. Your bodies natural foreign body killers will be compromised. Not to mention after years of taking flu shots, eventually, your body will become accostumed to these helpers and your natural immunity will be on vacation.

Not to go into biology but really do some research on this. When I was in the military, they forced me to take these, which makes sense because one's country needs to have it's fighting forces ready. Much like any country promotes the flu shot to keep it's people productive.

It's not good!

If your not concerned about living a long life...to me means into your 90's, then go for it.

Remember this post, when your older and you find yourself suffering from every virus or bacterial agent out there.

Eventually, your immune system just won't work properly and neither will the antibiotics or other medicine you take to keep diseases at bay.

Z
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've already got the flu, the shot won't help much.

It may help prevent future infections, but if you fight off the infection naturally, your body will have developed its own antibodies to the virus.


Get plenty of rest, stay warm, drink plenty of fluids....especially teas.

Here's one I like; get a fresh lemon, cut it in quarters.

Put 3 of the quarters into the fridge for future use. Squeeze 1/4 into a cup.

Put the squeezed fruit in as well. Pour in some honey (enough to make it sweet enough for your taste)

Pour in some cinnamon powder.

Get a tea bag (green tea). Pour in hot water.

Sip slowly, allowing the steam from the cup to enter your nostrils.

Do this 3 - 4 times daily.


If you are able to get around town, see if you can find one of those old style "Sam Gye Tang" restaurants. The ones that put in lots of ginseng
and give you lots of fresh garlic slices as a side.

When you are served, put all the garlic into the soup as it boils. The heat will cook the garlic a bit and make it a bit less harsh to the taste.
Add some salt (because they usually don't add any). Some hot peppers and onions as well, but not too much. Eat slowly. If it's a good restaurant they will give you a small cinnamon drink after you're done.

When you finish, go straight home to bed, and keep yourself good and warm.

I bought a small heating pad that I put under my neck, it helps a lot. I also wear a wool hat (toque) to bed with me. I find that if I keep my head warm, I get over these things a lot faster.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's a testament to the lack of science education in today's Western cultures to read the incredible posts on this thread - Rolling Eyes


ok here's a few tidy items not mentioned

one's body is in a constant state of making antibodies - constant ok? after a certain amount of time, some of those antibodies are discarded - dissolved - because they are no longer needed.

first of all, if one succumbs to the flu, yes, you will have some antibodies but again, those don't stay in your system forever - hence we get sick again and again. some people who "never" seem to get sick - don't go out much or do actually have unusually strong immune systems - which is a genetic trait, btw.

when one gets a flu shot these days - the shot will immunize against a minimum of 3 types of flu - so even if you've been sick once, you may still get sick again so yes, it DOES pay off to go ahead and get the shot - plus once you've been sick, your immune system has actually been significantly challenged, as well as your body as a whole which actually weakens your ability to cope with future exposures to colds within, say, the next several months or so.

someone mentioned the flu shot only being for children and the elderly - well - that's not entirely true. people who work in high-risk situations should also be getting immunized - and who is that? health care workers, for one, and guess what - teachers are another - do you really need an explanation as to why?

please DO note - getting a shot is no big deal BUT to acquire the best possible immunity one should NOT have even a SNIFFLE when getting vaccinated else the shot will not work or have a minimal effect. Try and get it when you are as well as can be. People who have allergies to eggs should ask first as albumin (egg white) is often used in the cultures in which the serum is prepared.

as to other precautions - yes, washing one's hands is important - also - minimize handling of papers such as homework and notebooks - these are cesspools of germs, honestly. I also try not to use anyone else's pens or pencils but my own - keep one on you for signing things - banks, anywhere. Don't share cups, of course, or anything else. Yes, open windows on buses when possible, avoid crowds here in K in winter -

drs here often include caffeine in the drugs they prescribe - hence a lot of Ks manage to go to work/out even when very ill. they are contagious as hell but have no consideration for the fact they are spreading disease. Be careful. It will help.

Respiratory infections can be serious and can make a foreigner sicker than the locals simply because we have no immunity to the local bacteria and viruses. Don't let people guilt-trip you - if you are sick and can't work, then don't. Take care of yourself - no one else is going to do it. It's all up to you.

The flu shot can be obtained just about any clinic or hospital. It will run you around 20-40,000 won. Well worth it. Some drs even recommend it twice a year.

peace Cool
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's a testament to the lack of science education in today's Western cultures to read the incredible posts on this thread - Rolling Eyes


ok here's a few tidy items not mentioned

one's body is in a constant state of making antibodies - constant ok? after a certain amount of time, some of those antibodies are discarded - dissolved - because they are no longer needed.

first of all, if one succumbs to the flu, yes, you will have some antibodies but again, those don't stay in your system forever - hence we get sick again and again. some people who "never" seem to get sick - don't go out much or do