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hamlet712
Joined: 16 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:23 am Post subject: To those who actually LIKE living in Korea |
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I have spent many weeks trying to retort to the many people who either HATE Korea, or who simply feel superior to Koreans ( and someties to those who are simply venting about their bad situations, but I waned to start a thread saying what it is that I enjoy about Korea.
Clearly some trolls will come on and spout of what they hate and how terrible it is here, but I am hoping to get more comments from those that love this country and came here for more than the paycheck.
Here are some of the things I love about the country
1) they have a very efficient public transportation system that gets you around fairly quickly in most cases and at a decent cost.
2) there is a major night life here you dont get in many towns
3) nearly anything is quite accessable
4) Many of the people are very friendly, will say Hello to you in English.
5) you can get very decent food at a very decent price, a big variety of things and all of th street vendors
6) they are not an overly capitalistic culture. Many of the things are half of what youd spend in America or Canada.
7) If you actually do a bit of research and look into a job befoe you sign a contract MANY of the jobs are quite good and pay you a very good salary. (even WITH the drop in the american dollar)( I am a Canadian so my money is not taking that big of a loss.)
I know I am lucky to have had good decent bosses, I also realize that some people have had bad experiences here.
Wy wife is Korean, and she is the nicest kindest woman I have ever met. Despite what many people think about Koreans she was raised this way and every one in her family is this way.
Korea is a country that has a lot of respectful traditions and most people are raised to be respectful in everyday situations. Korea is not a "rude" culture but apparently when people see the less refined guys spitting and shoving people, or being rude in general this translates to the fact that Koreans are rude.
So, what do you guys like about Korea? |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:26 am Post subject: Re: To those who actually LIKE living in Korea |
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I liked a lot of things about Korea, including the things you said. Having said that, Korean culture is rude, and not just by my Western standards either. To pretend otherwise is actually harmful to Korea. |
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coffeeandmilk
Joined: 23 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:36 am Post subject: |
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I agree wholeheartedly. My wife(who is Thai) and I love being in Korea. We live in Jeollanamdo province in a small rural town.
I will, however, also agree with the above post and say in general Korean people as a nation are quite rude, even by Asian standards. When you get to know a few on a personal level, things change and you get to see the softer and kinder side. Even my Korean co-teachers acknowledge that the nationalism here borders on fanaticism and needs to be curbed and altered for the people to truly thrive. That would be the part where failing to recognize the problem threatens Korea. There is no harm in feeling pride, but too many take it way too far. |
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hamlet712
Joined: 16 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: Re: To those who actually LIKE living in Korea |
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laogaiguk wrote: |
I liked a lot of things about Korea, including the things you said. Having said that, Korean culture is rude, and not just by my Western standards either. To pretend otherwise is actually harmful to Korea. |
How exactly is Korean culture Rude?
To simply say that without offering up any actual evidence is kind of arrogant. I meet people everyday who are not rude at all. They will go out of thier way to assist me If i need it, they try to talk to me. I have NEVER seen this attitude that other people see that Korean culture is rude.
Could you not say that (NOrth) American culture is rude too? Many are intolerant of other races and minorities in general, they will bud in front of you in many lines, road rage is a major issue, many will spit and urinate in public. Many will take advantage of thier fellow man to get ahead. Many are selfish and will do what they want to when they want to do it, many have sense of entitlement that what they want they should get. Many have an inflated sense of superiority. Many have little sense of family and will have strangers look after thier kids. I mean I could go on.
Every country hs its downfalls, but for the most part Every culture is raised to not look down on others and to lead an honorale and respectful life.
Id like you to explain how exactly the Koreans are a rude culture especially when compared to Western standards (which are sometimes pathtically low at the best of times anyway) rather than making a blanket statement like that.
I am not attacking you, but Id like you to explain your comment before I give it ANY consideration at all. |
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i4NI
Joined: 17 May 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: Re: To those who actually LIKE living in Korea |
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laogaiguk wrote: |
I liked a lot of things about Korea, including the things you said. Having said that, Korean culture is rude, and not just by my Western standards either. |
like what? |
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Css
Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Location: South of the river
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:44 am Post subject: |
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The thing that I like most about korea is the almost absolute feeling of security and safety I have at nearly all times.. |
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jkelly80

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: you boys like mexico?
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Korea is not a rude country per se, but it's rude given its level of affluence. Too much, too quick. |
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hamlet712
Joined: 16 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: |
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coffeeandmilk wrote: |
I agree wholeheartedly. My wife(who is Thai) and I love being in Korea. We live in Jeollanamdo province in a small rural town.
I will, however, also agree with the above post and say in general Korean people as a nation are quite rude, even by Asian standards. When you get to know a few on a personal level, things change and you get to see the softer and kinder side. Even my Korean co-teachers acknowledge that the nationalism here borders on fanaticism and needs to be curbed and altered for the people to truly thrive. That would be the part where failing to recognize the problem threatens Korea. There is no harm in feeling pride, but too many take it way too far. |
The same can be said about America.
Just ask anyone who spoke out against How George Bush handled 9/11 or questoned his policies just after it. You were attacjed as being a traitor for even questioning anything. Ther is an attitude that if you dont fully support America then you are "against" america. And you have free speehc only so long as yu dont go against the status quo then socity punishes you harshly for your contrary opinion. It kind of reminisent of Communist Russia that way, and if someone like Gwyneth Paltrow moves to England citing those exact reasons for her move she is branded as an unpatriotic American.
I am not saying your are WRONG about your view of Korea in regards to the nationalism thing, but they are hardly special. (or even WORSE than Americans. for that matter) |
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hamlet712
Joined: 16 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:51 am Post subject: |
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jkelly80 wrote: |
Korea is not a rude country per se, but it's rude given its level of affluence. Too much, too quick. |
Not sure I understand your point exactly. It sounds like a decent one, would you mind giving it a little more elaboration Jkelly? |
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pidgin

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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I second the safety aspect mentioned above. Crime stats are so incredibly low here, therefore the cops aren't in your face everywhere you go.
I like the changing seasons these days. I ended nearly a decade without Winter, not too long ago.
I like the food availability (like the OP). I know an affordable Thai place nearby, Vietnamese, decent enough Mexican, Italian...a good steak, etc..etc...
My bills are reasonable enough. Online shopping (korean) is awesome for just about anything.
Koreans appear rude to many because often they just don't give a hoot about strangers (excepting the elderly and very young). Once you establish a relationship, often they'll bend over backwards to make you comfortable or help you if needed, imo. |
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pidgin

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: |
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jkelly80 wrote: |
Korea is not a rude country per se, but it's rude given its level of affluence. Too much, too quick. |
Are you referring to vast economic and industrial growth in 50 quick years?
The ole' "farmers in suits" syndrome? |
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Ekaia
Joined: 31 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: |
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This is my first week in Seoul. So far so good! |
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coffeeandmilk
Joined: 23 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:03 am Post subject: Re: To those who actually LIKE living in Korea |
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hamlet712 wrote: |
laogaiguk wrote: |
I liked a lot of things about Korea, including the things you said. Having said that, Korean culture is rude, and not just by my Western standards either. To pretend otherwise is actually harmful to Korea. |
How exactly is Korean culture Rude?...
Every country hs its downfalls, but for the most part Every culture is raised to not look down on others and to lead an honorale and respectful life. |
Uhm... you do know that you are in a country where the people are taught and fully believe that being born Korean is to be "shined on from the gods" and that being born non-Korean is considered as much as a curse?
Don't expect any Koreans, even your wife, to ever tell you the truth about that. When directly confronted by foreigners they enthusiastically deny it. It takes a keen ear and knowledge of the Korean language to hear it, but hear it I have. Many times. Here and abroad. A lot of younger Koreans don't think in this way, but then again, a lot of them do. It's the ones that don't that fill me with hope for this beautiful country.
As for examples of rudeness, I see it on a daily basis, and in every action I try to complete in this very foreigner-unfriendly country. How about dealing with any type of Banking issue? You don't count because you have a Korean spouse. I am basically allowed to keep my money in the account, and that is just about it. It's not just me either. Foreign investment has dwindled down to almost ZERO because of the extremely unfriendly government and banking industry. I'm trying to say the problems exist, but its a "you cant see the forest for the trees" situation. At least for you. I think maybe you have a really beautiful Korean wife, and your focus is a little... busy. lol
As for your little comment about America? Yes it might be tough to get to, yes, there might be a few idiots in the streets that treat people badly, but no government(notice I said government, not individual people), NONE goes so far to accomodate so many different people of so many different backgrounds. NOT A SINGLE ONE. When I take my wife back to America, she will be eligible for grants and funds to start a business that I can only dream of as a white male. It is quite fair to say American gov. treats foreigners BETTER than it's native population. Unlike here.
That being said, I still agree with you, mostly. This country is wonderful and beautiful. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't enjoyable for me. Whatever problems do exist, I find a way around(but shouldn't have to), and my beautiful Thai wife distracts me from the rest. |
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MrRogers
Joined: 29 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Css wrote:
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The thing that I like most about korea is the almost absolute feeling of security and safety I have at nearly all times.. |
I constantly keep an awareness that the place is totally insecure and NOT SAFE (people wear blinders) with missiles aimed at it
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=137365&highlight= |
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Join Me

Joined: 14 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Overall, I love Korea. Like anyone I have my days and I have to remind myself that every Korean is an individual. My current director may be a total psycho but that doesn't mean every Korean is...my last one was great.
I still get irritated when some adjuma tries to jump in front of me in line (I don't like to be forced to shove women aside). That said, I was absolutely breathless when I went to E-Mart today. I haven't shopped for food there for almost a year and when I went downstairs there was a single file line of close to 100 Koreans waiting to get something. I guess the public service commercials they run on TV about waiting your turn in line are getting through to the masses. |
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