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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
Gopher wrote:
Wangja wrote:
I am serious -- I welcome you all back. I am very pro-American and...


Assert whatever you like.

You do not speak for "the rest of the world." You are not authorized "to welcome us back." You do not get to define what we need to do as far as our inclusion in "the rest of the world" goes. And you certainly do not get to dictate to us what our ideals are and that if we want inclusion we must elect Democrats, who represent them, and not Republicans, who do not, etc.

I knew a B. Obama victory would carry such baggage as this.


Look, I know you've had a rough day and may even be bleeding inside but if I want to welcome you back I am free to so so. I say it from my heart - welcome back.

My message was sincere and genuine. and that you should seek to belittle it shows just how far you did drift.

How you can say I am dictating your ideals to you when I say I admire them: how did you manage to read that?

Wangja, don't let the real smug, condescending sore losers bother you.

I appreciate your welcome.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
Manner of Speaking wrote:
Can -- as a non-American -- I ask you guys a question about regional voting patterns?

I popped over to the Yahoo! website around lunchtime, and saw that Obama took the Northeast. Like, the WHOLE Northeast. Laughing He also did well in the Midwest, which is no surprise...but I was a little curious about the fact that he also took the whole west coast.

California is no surprise, but do voters in Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and/or Nevada tend to vote the same as California? I figured Nevada would go for McCain, as it is so close to his home state.

West Coast - Oregon, Washington, and California is always VERY BLUE (Democrat/Liberal). Often referred to as the 'LEFT COAST'. I vote in California, which is fairly pointless, as it is always solid blue.

Nevada is the exception this year. It WAS just as red as Arizona, Utah, etc. But from what I understand, MANY Californians have moved into Nevada in recent years (as well as quite a few from the East Coast - New York in particular). It is quite new for it to have changed colors.


Nevada no doubt voted for Obama due to my valiant work in the state. You can call it the "Bum Effect."

But seriously, I think TB is right: massive migration from blue states has turned NV into a swing state.

And OR and WA aren't quite as left-leaning as CA is. I believe Kerry and Gore barely won WA, and OR has a republican Senator (although it looks like he'll be adios now). Basically OR became blue in the past 10-15 years, thanks in part to massive migration from CA.

Hawaii, on the other hand, is dominated by the Democratic party.
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