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Joe Calzaghe vs Roy Jones Jr

 
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Beeyee



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:25 am    Post subject: Joe Calzaghe vs Roy Jones Jr Reply with quote

Getting excited about this one. If I calculated right it should be on at about 1pm tomorrow afternoon.

Calzaghe has to be the favourite I would have thought. Can he cement his legacy as one of the greatest boxers of all time and retire undefeated?
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BS.Dos.



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BS.Dos.



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone watching?
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harryh



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched it on SBS Sports.

Well done, Joe!

Comfortable points win. Although Joe went down in the first round from a punch, which looked like a forearm shot from Roy.

Roy got a bad cut in the seventh.

Both guys look past their best, but Joe still has some gas left in the tank.

Joe's hands are so fragile, that he doesn't put any weight down on his shots, so relies on points wins. He was a hard puncher in the amateurs, and early in his pro career.

The 28 year old Joe would be the 36 year old Joe, much like a younger RJJ would beat the present version of Jones.

I wish Joe had gone to fight in America a few years ago. He should have broken from cautious Frank Warren some time before he did.
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skconqueror



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At both their primes Roy Jones would have finished Joe. It is sad that RJ is still fighting.. He needs to retire (he needed to a while ago).
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Beeyee



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skconqueror wrote:
At both their primes Roy Jones would have finished Joe. It is sad that RJ is still fighting.. He needs to retire (he needed to a while ago).


I disagree. Calzaghe is by far the smarter fighter. Maybe it would not have been as comprehensive as today, but I would bet on a Calzaghe victory.
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skconqueror



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beeyee wrote:
skconqueror wrote:
At both their primes Roy Jones would have finished Joe. It is sad that RJ is still fighting.. He needs to retire (he needed to a while ago).


I disagree. Calzaghe is by far the smarter fighter. Maybe it would not have been as comprehensive as today, but I would bet on a Calzaghe victory.


Of all previous jones opponents (before tarver), Jones was never really tested. He was just too fast and skilled. It has only been since Jones lost speed that people have been able to catch him. He relied totally on his reflexes and speed.

The same goes for Floyd Mayweather, he will not be beat until he is older and loses his speed.

Calzaghe is a great fighter, but he doesn't have the raw speed and physical gifts the above two fighters have/ had in their primes.

ps. many think that Calzaghe lost to Hopkins as well. Which I tend to agree with.
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jones most impressive wins early in his career were against two great, very smart fighters who were also in their prime - James Toney and Bernard Hopkins.

He completely dominated Toney and won convincingly against Hopkins (though he didn't take too many chances against the "Executioner").

Some years back, Jones lost enough of his formerly great footwork that he would have a tough time beating Hopkins again.

I haven't seen the Jones-Calzaghe fight yet, but I also thought that Calzaghe was awarded a questionable decision against Hopkins.
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harryh



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just watched the Calzaghe V Hopkins fight again and I can't see how Hopkins won any of the last seven rounds. It was a close fight but I still see Calzaghe winning by two points.

Mind you, I'd like to see Calzaghe V Hopkins 2, but would be nice to stage it at a neutral venue, but won't happen as money dictates.

It's so often difficult for European fighters to get fair decisions in an American's backyard, likewise also, for many fighters who come to Europe, notably Italy and Germany.
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