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Obama shifts towards New World Gov't
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
In 2004, the biggest contributor to Bush's campaign was the president of Citibank. For Kerry, it was the vice president of Citibank.

The whole system stinks and needs a radical revamping.


Many large companies donate to both parties. It's in their interest to see a healthy political debate.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheonmunka wrote:
Yataboy, I think you belittle the ideas expressed above about empire building of companies, the expanding monopolization of resources, oligarchal control of resources and assets - etc.


I hope you then follow this and offer a 50% cut in pay to your boss. Or do you demand raises and enjoy more power? We all do this in the micro, I'm not sure why when the guy next to us does it better and more successfully that's immoral.
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me why having a world currency and a world government would be worse than what we have right now?

Coincidentally, I was talking with a coworker about this today. I predict (arbitrarily) that we'll have a world currency before a world government--I think the banks would be centralized first...could happen in the next 20 years, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few to start; Surrender/loss of sovereignty; Central control over decentralised control (debateable, but I personally think communities are ultimately better placed to make their own decisions rather than have some absent super-state make the decisions for them); loss of political diversity, I think this is potentially very dangerous. If we become complicit in the idea of a single world government, then who'll determine its politic and who will challenge the political status-quo once it's established? A recipe for autocracy if ever there was one.

I think your theories regarding how this may unfold i.e. global economy first, are pretty sound. Stands to reason that we should be economically homogeneous before we start submitting to ideas of political homogeneity. We're not talking short-term here. A global currency is (for some at least i.e. Europe) probably decades away. A new world order? Generations.


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BS.Dos.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I mentioned in another thread, the big global powerhouse institutions (World Bank, WTO, WMF et cetera) are, in many respects, already aligning themselves for convergence. To some, this may represent an interesting socio-eco-political idea. But, once these institutions are in place and functioning in concert and are then coupled with some kind of new single monetary system and then some form of all-embracing political governance, you then have to ask yourselves just how long it'll be before there is a single military. The world may indeed be a safer place, but god forbid a few generations from now when our kids, kids, kids might want to try something new. Retention and active promotion of diversification is the only safe guard against this.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easter Clark wrote:
Can anyone tell me why having a world currency and a world government would be worse than what we have right now?

Coincidentally, I was talking with a coworker about this today. I predict (arbitrarily) that we'll have a world currency before a world government--I think the banks would be centralized first...could happen in the next 20 years, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.


A single currency offers a couple advantages:

1) Prices are a lot more transparent. A coat costs 14 satans in Korea or 28 satans in North America. Consumers immediately know where to get the best deal.

2) Vast sums of money are spent in conversion costs and buying currency futures to protect yourself against wild swings in a currency's value.

Also consider the current bad economic times. There's a flight to reserve currencies like the Euro and the US dollar. Nations without reserve currencies (like Iceland) are in a real pickle.
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Dude Ranch



Joined: 04 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mayer Amschel Rothschild
Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws.


Baron Nathan Mayer Rothschild
I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire, ...The man that controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire. And I control the money supply.


James Paul Warburg
We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.
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Cornfed



Joined: 14 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Speaking on the stage management of the election, and calling it a "huge distraction" from real issues, the Congressman outlined how both candidates were pre-positioned by the elite interests with the knowledge that either would satisfactorily serve their agenda:

In other news, water is wet. Seriously, when has this ever not been the case? That's pretty much how the world has worked for the last 6k years. It was hardly likely to change with the last election.
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Poemer



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait we are going to go STRAIGHT to a global currency? I thought we were going to give up a little piece of our sovereignty regionally first, then work our way up? What happened to the Amero?
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