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H. Reid Targets J. Lieberman in the Senate...
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:

Also, keep in mind, Lieberman votes VERY LIBERAL on every issue, except for the pro-Israel, use the U.S. as extensive Israel-protectors in the Middle East region at all costs, even if the U.S. economically goes into the shitter because of it, crowd.

Yeah, he also loved McCain, and was salivating at having US bases all over the region...but when it comes to every other issue that exists in the U.S. that isn't directly Israel-related, he is a very consistent and strong Democrat and votes that way.


Don't forget that Lieberman was very involved in the MCA.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
Don't forget that Lieberman was very involved in the MCA.


So were these Democratic Senators...

Senate.gov wrote:
Carper (D-DE)
Johnson (D-SD)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Stabenow (D-MI)


Approximately half of them did not face reelection; the other half did and won. Should Harry Reid target them too?
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama Wants Lieberman To Remain In Democratic Caucus

November 10, 2008 02:45 PM

President-elect Barack Obama has informed party officials that he wants Joe Lieberman to continue caucusing with the Democrats in the 111th Congress, Senate aides tell the Huffington Post.

Obama's decision could tie the hands of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who has been negotiating to remove Lieberman as chair of the Homeland Security and Government Reform committee while keeping him within the caucus. Lieberman has insisted that he will split from the Democrats if his homeland security position is stripped.

Aides to the president-elect did not return requests for comment. Senate officials were unclear whether Obama would be comfortable with Lieberman maintaining his current committee post.

Meanwhile, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has said that he would welcome Lieberman into the GOP, though he has little to offer in terms of committee assignments.

If Lieberman were to continue caucusing with the Democrats without being punished for his campaign conduct -- Democrats say he broke a promise not to campaign negatively against Obama -- the progressive community will undoubtedly be up in arms. For Obama, however, the move may be a shrewd gesture towards reconciliation, in the process taking a potentially taxing political fight off the table.

Fellow Connecticut Senate Chris Dodd, who has spoken out in favor of Lieberman remaining in the party, explained as much to reporters on Friday:

"What does Barack Obama want?... He's talked about reconciliation, healing, bringing people together. I don't think he'd necessarily want to spend the first month of this president-elect period, this transition period, talking about a Senate seat, particularly if someone is willing to come forward and is willing to be a member of your family in the caucus in that sense."

A Democrat close to Lieberman, meanwhile, said he thought that keeping Lieberman in the fold "would be a good move for Obama as a way to make real his promise of new politics, a less partisan Washington and more unity. He would do so at some risk. Obviously there is a liberal wing of the party that wants Joe punished... "

There is, perhaps, one measure by which Democratic leadership can still reconcile the competing realities of Lieberman's future in the caucus. One Democratic aide said that the party was considering letting the Connecticut Senator keep his post at homeland security but forcing him to relinquish one or both of his spots on two more high-profile committees: Armed Services and Environment & Public Works.

Lieberman is in line for leadership roles in both of those committees should the current chairs leave their posts. On Armed Services, the two senators ahead of him are Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd. On Environment and Public Works, current chair Barbara Boxer may face a tough reelection campaign in 2010 and second in line, Sen. Max Baucus, already heads another committee.

If Democratic leadership were to keep Lieberman on homeland security but impede any chance of ascending to these other posts, that may be enough to placate progressive activists demanding punishment while keeping the Connecticut Senator in the caucus.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/obama-wants-lieberman-to_n_142731.html
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Kuros wrote:
Don't forget that Lieberman was very involved in the MCA.


So were these Democratic Senators...

Senate.gov wrote:
Carper (D-DE)
Johnson (D-SD)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Stabenow (D-MI)


Approximately half of them did not face reelection; the other half did and won. Should Harry Reid target them too?


Only one of those men is chair of the Homeland Security Committee.

Joe should lose his chairmanship if only for the MCA.
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RJjr



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
Also, keep in mind, Lieberman votes VERY LIBERAL on every issue, except for the pro-Israel, use the U.S. as extensive Israel-protectors in the Middle East region at all costs, even if the U.S. economically goes into the shitter because of it, crowd.

Yeah, he also loved McCain, and was salivating at having US bases all over the region...but when it comes to every other issue that exists in the U.S. that isn't directly Israel-related, he is a very consistent and strong Democrat and votes that way.


Lieberman is a total embarrassment to patriot ethnic Jews by doing his best to propagate the negative ethnic stereotypes.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call him what you want. It looks like he will remain...

Quote:
Senate Democrats appear willing to let Sen. Joe Lieberman keep his powerful Homeland Security Committee chairmanship, even though the Connecticut independent campaigned vigorously for John McCain's White House bid, two congressional sources told CNN Monday.

Instead, Senate Democrats will likely strip Lieberman of his chairmanship of an environmental subcommittee -- a considerably less prominent position than his homeland security post.

That outcome would be at odds with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's initial intentions. Sources told CNN last week that Reid had informed Lieberman it was likely he would lose his chairmanship of the committee and instead assume a leadership post on a less prominent panel. Lieberman told Reid that offer was "not acceptable," according to sources.

The Democratic caucus will formally meet Tuesday morning to hold a secret ballot vote on Lieberman's future, but the sources suggested the outcome of that vote may already be a foregone conclusion.


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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the reasons is that there is a very slim chance that the Democrats could hold a 60 seat majority in the US Senate. If that happens, Lieberman would be needed to break a filibuster.

Clearly the Dems are up to 58 (again with Lieberman) because Mark Begich has been declared the winner in Alaska. The two seats which are undecided are Minnesota (currently under recount) and Georgia (currently in a runoff).

We'll see whether he continues to support Republican candidates and/or supports filibustering judicial appointments. Nothing would surprise me.
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