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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:35 am Post subject:

tatertot wrote:

laogaiguk wrote:

I can't prove it on a forum. But my IQ is around 150 (not done with an internet test either) and I was using the next grade's textbooks all through out my education (and even then I finished before that grade did). I am extremely smart, but in no way does that make me better, because there are millions of people who can do things much better than I can. It just depends on what. Smile

But I am smart enough to know I don't want the average person dictating my beliefs!

You may (or may not) have an IQ of 150 but you don't have enough common sense realize that it doesn't lend any more credence to the opinions you spout on the Internet.

For Instance, my IQ is 3,092 and I was using textbooks from 47 grade levels higher than my own. As a matter of fact, I received my PhD from Harvard before I was even conceived! Therefore, my opinion totally invalidates your opinion.

For the record, I don't know what your opinions are on this thread because I didn't read far enough back, so I don't necessarily disagree with them. I just get a kick out of the Internet "I'm smarter/richer/more attractive/cooler/etc than you" postings. Maybe we can be friends...I do like your avatar.

You totally missed my point, focusing only on that one point. That statement of intelligence was not to prove my opinion was right, but that "better" needs to be more defined. I am not surprised though.

Like I said, I can't prove it. You can't disprove it. No need to argue about it. My point is that everyone has their strengths and weaknesses, and calling someone better means nothing until "better" is defined.

I will say one thing though. Korea does not attract the best and brightest, though there are exceptions. One person I am pretty sure is smarter than me on here is mithrdates (even if I don't always agree with him). It's a lot of artsies who wasted 4 years doing the only degree they could actually finsih without intelligence or hard work. This board makes up a good sample of them.

fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:35 am Post subject:

laogaiguk wrote:

fiveeagles wrote:

laogaiguk wrote:

sharkey wrote:

people who go to church as fn awful.. all they do is vote against progressive legislation and think theyre better than everyone else cause they think believing in this "thing" that made the earth, universe and is responsible for all life on this planet, lol, give me a break

They had no right to do what they did though, unless it was in response to something similar done by those specific people or that specific church. I will fight people like you (even though I have no idea how people believe in any stupid religion, which is all of them) to the death to allow them their freedom. Us non-believers only got the right to speak out against religion a few decades ago and we must hold on to that right, which means everyone can use it.

Also, you can't say they are the only ones who think they are better than others. Everyone does. And what is better?

I would actually be happy if there was no religion on this planet and I feel it has held our race back so much. But I would rather have religion and the ability to be agnostic than to throw the dice and hope what most people believe in is the same as me (otherwise you get stoned...)

Especially because, while not better, I am significantly smarter than the average person (ignorant masses) and don't want them telling me what I should do.

Whaddya know, I actually I agree with you on most of your comments. However, this part; Especially because, while not better, I am significantly smarter than the average person (ignorant masses) and don't want them telling me what I should do. I have to laugh in your face. Cool

But I am smart enough to know I don't want the average person dictating my beliefs!

And very humble to boot! Razz

Being smart doesn't mean your wise. Having understanding doesn't mean you have love.

Some of the greatest things I have seen have come from the foolish things.

laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject:

fiveeagles wrote:

And very humble to boot! Razz

Being smart doesn't mean your wise. Having understanding doesn't mean you have love.

Some of the greatest things I have seen have come from the foolish things.

I agree 100%. This is the point I am trying to make. Though humbleness is actually a useless trait enforced by useless people. Knowing one's strengths is just as important as knowing one's weaknesses.

Quack Addict

Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject:

laogaiguk wrote:

fiveeagles wrote:

And very humble to boot! Razz

Being smart doesn't mean your wise. Having understanding doesn't mean you have love.

Some of the greatest things I have seen have come from the foolish things.

Get real dude. How can you know what your weaknesses are if your too busy patting yourself on your back? Being humble shows character...being a self righteous, arrogant, narcissistic asshat shows a lack of...which you posses.

laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject:

Quack Addict wrote:

laogaiguk wrote:

fiveeagles wrote:

And very humble to boot! Razz

Being smart doesn't mean your wise. Having understanding doesn't mean you have love.

Some of the greatest things I have seen have come from the foolish things.

First and foremost, how does it show character? I am not saying that you should go around saying it with no reason, but I used it in a specific example. Again, how is being humble a good thing? Please explain.

Let me explain why not. People who say what they are capable of (and not using hyperbole) in context is good, as it allows the other people to properly assess the situation. Being humble, and not allowing others to know what you are really capable of is actually lying, and withholding information that might be useful.

There is also no arrogance in my posts. I am actually saying that nobody is better than anyone else, including myself. I was showing my strength, but saying that that doesn't make me a better person nor does it make my opinion more important. There are millions of people better than me, in many different ways. How is that arrogant? You are working on a basis of emotion, while I am working on a logical basis.

As for the bolded, this makes no sense. Of course you can know your weaknesses while knowing your strenghts. What a stupid thing to say. I just don't understand your entire position, except that society has told you being humble is a good trait and like most people, without thinking and with emotion, believe that. Humbleness can actually be harmful. So can over estimating your abilities though. It's all about extremes and staying in the middle.

I am quite sure you will retort with a immature, ad hominem, emotional attack again though... Sad

Koreans actually do think the Confucian hierarchy and showing complete respect to elders no matter what (very different from our respect) is a good trait. It's is a horrid trait and keeps this coutnry back in so many ways.

seosan08

Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Korea

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject:

laogaiguk wrote:

Quack Addict wrote:

laogaiguk wrote:

fiveeagles wrote:

And very humble to boot! Razz

Being smart doesn't mean your wise. Having understanding doesn't mean you have love.

Some of the greatest things I have seen have come from the foolish things.

And being a genius yourself, you see it all and know it all. This is what the naive think, before they grow up and learn the world doesn't revolve around them. I knew guys like you in the military who "knew it all," most of those guys aren't living now.

laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:28 am Post subject:

seosan08 wrote:

No, what part of this do you people not understand? I very well could be wrong. Even Einstein was wrong with it came to quantum mechanics, and he fought tooth and nail for the longest time. The ability to know your strengths is just as important as knowing your weaknesses.

I have asked several times for someone to prove me wrong. If done, I will learn from that and become even smarter. But everyone who has commented on this line of thought so far has not even bothered to answer the question, "How is humility useful?" yet. They just go on with their emotional, stupid thought that no one could be smarter than them and with their ad hominem attacks. Quack addict still hasn't answered the first question that started this.

There will always be people smarter than you, but most people won't accept this. I never said I know it all, I said I was smart. Learn to read.

Your posts on this thread are pretty bad though. Your opinion means nothing to anyone, let alone someone with the ability to think.

khyber

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:33 am Post subject:

Knowing your strengths and weaknesses has nothing to do with humility. But what is the benefit of humility? I think to see the benefit, you have to see the problems with boastfulness My guess: People who remain humble tend to put less of themselves out there. And at the same time, they appear to have a more appropriate self image and know what they are capable of. People who are boastful tend to speak past their abilities.

laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:44 am Post subject:

khyber wrote:

Knowing your strengths and weaknesses has nothing to do with humility.

But what is the benefit of humility? I think to see the benefit, you have to see the problems with boastfulness
My guess:
People who remain humble tend to put less of themselves out there. And at the same time, they appear to have a more appropriate self image and know what they are capable of.
People who are boastful tend to speak past their abilities.

Again, you haven't answered my question at all. This is tiresome. I already iterated that extremes are bad, and that one shouldn't be boastful (actually, I said this in three different posts). But one should also not hide what they can do, as it deprives others of information that could be useful in making decisions.

Humility has everything to do with knowing your strengths. Humility means to actually hide the strengths you know you have to be seen as humble and not boastful. In this you are wrong. To be humble (an intentional act), you have to know that you possess strengths to be humble about, otherwise you aren't being humble. No? Think about that.

Just answer one questions, anyone. How can be humble be a good thing, when it is actually depriving someone of information they may need? I will again say that being boastful is just as bad, and not a good thing.

TheChickenLover

Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: The Chicken Coop

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject:

The moment we get rid of religion on this planet, the world will be a much safer and happier place. Nothing good ever really comes out of religion. It's just an oppresive form of control masquerading as a 'good' thing for its followers. And yes, they need more of your money as well. Chicken

laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:49 am Post subject:

TheChickenLover wrote:

The moment we get rid of religion on this planet, the world will be a much safer and happier place.

Nothing good ever really comes out of religion. It's just an oppresive form of control masquerading as a 'good' thing for its followers. And yes, they need more of your money as well. Rolling Eyes

Chicken

Yes, but going cold turkey won't work. Scientology is a good example of a move away from Christianity which is bad. People are also looking into other things like Buddhims and Taoism, and realizing those are just as stupid. It will happen, but it needs weaning.

Again, anyone who counters that religion is good, all I have to say is the ban on condoms in Africa...

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