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Hard to get a job these days?

 
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Hard to get a job these days? Reply with quote

Hi,

Next week im heading back to Korea with my wife who is Korean. Now as we all know the world is a bit buggered and everything seems to be headed in the wrong direction. But as far as I understood before, if you had a degree, a passport and a pulse then someone wanted you in Korea. I mean the first time I got a job there I got it 3 days after giving my details to a few recruits and of those 3 days most of them rejecting crappy hagwon contracts.

Last time I was fresh out of uni with no experience and got a Job easily.

This time, I will have an F-2 visa, Experience and I will already be in Korea. Not to mention im young and handsome which in many cases is more important than qualifications (yep great system there). But is it harder to get a job these days in Seoul? My assumption is that I could easily get a job in a week if I wanted, or maybe a month if I wanted to find my ideal job.

Am I correct? Or have things changed quite dramatically in the last year?
I know most people who have f-2 visa's typically go for afterschool, privates etc. But I want to get a solid job before I branch out into other areas.

Anyway any info is appreciated Very Happy
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easier than hell...perhaps even moreso than the past due to new visa regulations and the fall in the Won's value.
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See thats what I figured, people are giving me hell because I said I want to find an apartment then a job. They say how can you get an apartment without having an income to pay for the rent(not including the 50k I have in the bank as a financial back stop). They just can't grasp the concept of demand greater than supply for a job market. Sigh I wish people actually knew something about korea before they spoke.

A nice example, I went to get a new internation drivers lisence at the place that issues them.
Stupid person:" Which country do you want the lisence for"
Me: " Korea, I'm moving back there"
Stupid person: "Why do you want one for Korea"
Me: "So I can drive around"
Stupid person : "Just hire a driver over there, it's very cheap"
Me: "No it's not?"
Stupid person(gets defensive) :"Yes it is!"
Me: "No, It's not. Have you been to Korea?"
Stupid person: "No, but people tell me"
Me: "Who? Stupid people?"

then she got all angry and didn't want to give me the lisence
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good jobs are difficult to find. Mid-road and crappy jobs are abundant.

Public school jobs are often not bad to good. It really depends. Not sure it's the right time for one of those right at the moment -- I haven't been looking at them lately.
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jellobean



Joined: 14 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Good jobs are difficult to find. Mid-road and crappy jobs are abundant.


But with an F-visa, you can take a mid-road job to start and give 30 days notice when you find a good job Smile
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before I worked at public schools on a rotating roster. I week at one school one week at another. I would prefer to work public again. But I want to live around jamsil this time. So if I can't get a public around there I reckon I can easily get my foot in the door at a hagwon in gangnam.
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valkyrian2
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Joined: 15 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jiberish wrote:
Before I worked at public schools on a rotating roster. I week at one school one week at another. I would prefer to work public again. But I want to live around jamsil this time. So if I can't get a public around there I reckon I can easily get my foot in the door at a hagwon in gangnam.


IF you are here, have a degree and no visa issues to worry about then getting a decent job is about as easy as falling off a turnip truck or getting a big mac at a micky D's - to get a decent job (especially at a public school in or near Seoul).

Bilingual resume and cover letter and hit about 10 schools in the area you want to work in. You should have an interview within a week or so.

Walk it to 25 schools (public) and you will be working within the month.

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wheredowego



Joined: 14 Nov 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jiberish,

Reminds me of of going into the bank and asking for a draft for $55 made out to the Korean Consulate. The (stupid person) told me I'd have to wait while she checked to see if it was ok because she knew that it was wrong to have dealings with North Korea.
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, yeah

I still talk to people and say I'm going to south korea and they go, "there's a north?"
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aerialsimulacrum



Joined: 11 May 2008
Location: Space is the place

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of it has to do with timing. My situation is that I work at an adult hagwon and decided I want to teach kids instead... a big reason being the better work schedule. As well, PS experience looks better if one wants to become a certified teacher back home.

I asked at my local PS board and they said I would have to wait until March. Then I applied at a kids' hagwon and they are saying the same thing. But I've contacted some recruiters and may be able to get a PS job next month in another province.

Maybe the delay is because winter vacation happens in December and January so they don't want to hire then.
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jiberish



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think alot of the public schools hire in march because thats when the school year starts for them. The company that I worked for which had a contract for public's hired teachers every sumer and winter vacation. I think they would only want someone asap at random times if the previous teacher left.

However I'm suprised you got that response from hagwons. From my knowledge they just typically hired throughout the year whenever the previous teacher left.

I think for this period I should actually be looking for winter camps. Just as long as I don't have stay at the camp. I remember some of the teachers did that before. Lured in by the high pay. But they had to be with the kids from when they woke up till when they had to go to sleep. They complained about it for months.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

valkyrian2 wrote:
jiberish wrote:
Before I worked at public schools on a rotating roster. I week at one school one week at another. I would prefer to work public again. But I want to live around jamsil this time. So if I can't get a public around there I reckon I can easily get my foot in the door at a hagwon in gangnam.


IF you are here, have a degree and no visa issues to worry about then getting a decent job is about as easy as falling off a turnip truck or getting a big mac at a micky D's - to get a decent job (especially at a public school in or near Seoul).

Bilingual resume and cover letter and hit about 10 schools in the area you want to work in. You should have an interview within a week or so.

Walk it to 25 schools (public) and you will be working within the month.

.


You still require an apostilized and notarized criminal record, with information wether you are allowed to teach children.
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waynehead



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Jongno

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're picky, it can take some time. I've got experience (in Korea and elsewhere) and I've had a little trouble landing a job of late, but that's mostly b/c I have a lot of specific demands that have scared away some recruiters/potential employers.

That said I think I've got a school that's going to work and I'll probably be signing/sending off my contract w/in a week.

If you're willing to take almost anything, then you're not going to have any problems at all.
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