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bangbayed
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"...a vice president has a really great job, because not only are they there to support the president's agenda, they're like the team member, the team mate to that president," Palin said.
"But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom. And it's a great job and I look forward to having that job," she said. |
http://www.videonewslive.com/view/269015/sarah_palin_says_vice_president_is_in_charge_of_us_senate |
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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| "We realize that more and more Americans are starting to see the light there and understand the contrast. And we talk a lot about, OK, we�re confident that we�re going to win on Tuesday, so from there, the first 100 days, how are we going to kick in the plan that will get this economy back on the right track and really shore up the strategies that we need over in Iraq and Iran to win these wars?" --Sarah Palin, suggesting we are at war with Iran, FOX News interview, Nov. 1, 2008 |
http://www.palinisms.com/sarahpalin5.htm
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| "I mean you set yourself up just to continually be mocked, you know so sometimes that doesn�t do any good, but what I have done in this campaign is in reaching out to the American voters through our rallies, through the one on ones, through the small meetings that we�ve had trying to get our message out, our plans for this country out there minus the filter of some of the filter of the mainstream media because, because that filter as, as we see every day when we turn on the news too often there is this, this opaqueness, there is this, this spin, this contortion of a person�s words and intentions and that does more harm than good, so it�s a greater challenge for me and for John McCain to try to get our message out there without that filter of I think some of the world�s media." |
� Sarah Palin, October 20, 2008� explaining on a cable network why she doesn�t do interviews with cable networks.
http://www.irregulartimes.com/palinisms.html
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Diagramming Sarah
Can Palin's sentences stand up to a grammarian?
By Kitty Burns Florey
Updated Wednesday, Oct. 1, 2008, at 7:07 PM ET
There are plenty of people out there�not only English teachers but also amateur language buffs like me�who believe that diagramming a sentence provides insight into the mind of its perpetrator. The more the diagram is forced to wander around the page, loop back on itself, and generally stretch its capabilities, the more it reveals that the mind that created the sentence is either a richly educated one�with a Proustian grasp of language that pushes the limits of expression�or such an impoverished one that it can produce only hot air, baloney, and twaddle.
I found myself considering this paradox once again when confronted with the sentences of Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee. No one but a Republican denial specialist could argue with the fact that Sarah Palin's recent TV appearances have scaled the heights of inanity. The sentences she uttered in interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and Katie Couric seem to twitter all over the place like mourning doves frightened at the feeder. Which left me wondering: What can we learn from diagramming them?
One thing we can't learn, of course, is whether her words are true or make sense. Part of the appeal of diagramming is the fact that just about any sentence can be diagrammed, even when it is gibberish. Cats chase mice and Mice chase cats present the same kind of entity to the diagrammer. So does Muffins bludgeon bookcases. If it's a string of words containing a certain number of parts of speech arranged in reasonably coherent order, it can be hacked and beaten into a diagram.... |
http://www.slate.com/id/2201158/
Get the picture?
Sarah Palin speaks in gibberish. Yet there are publishers who actually want to pay her to write a book. Some say they might pay her $7 million to $10 million.
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November 16, 2008
Sarah Palin�s failure set to reap her $7m book deal
Tony Allen-Mills in New York
She failed to save John McCain from presidential election doom, but Sarah Palin, the Republican senator�s controversial running mate, may yet emerge as the saviour of the American publishing industry. Literary agents are queueing up to sign her to a book deal that could earn her up to $7m.
With Barack Obama�s election victory certain to generate dozens of volumes from politicians, strategists and journalists � and with another shelfload of memoirs expected from members of President George W Bush�s administration � Palin�s personal account of her tumultuous introduction to national politics is widely regarded as the book most likely to repay a multi-million-dollar advance.
�She�s poised to make a ton of money,� said Howard Rubenstein, New York�s best-known public relations adviser.
�Every publisher and a lot of literary agents have been going after her,� added Jeff Klein of Folio Literary management.... |
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5162538.ece
I'm not sure how they figure they can make money off this deal It's going to cost the lucky publisher at least $10 billion just to edit the manuscript. |
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newteacher
Joined: 31 May 2007
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| My concern has been the atrocities there in Darfur and the relevance to me with that issue as we spoke about Africa and some of the countries there that were kind of the people succumbing to the dictators and the corruption of some collapsed governments on the continent, the relevance was Alaska�s investment in Darfur with some of our permanent fund dollars. |
From Dick Cavett's article in the Times.
http://cavett.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/14/the-wild-wordsmith-of-wasilla/?em
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And, she concluded, �never, ever did I talk about, well, gee, is it a country or a continent, I just don�t know about this issue.�
It�s admittedly a rare gift to produce a paragraph in which whole clumps of words could be removed without noticeably affecting the sense, if any. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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"...a vice president has a really great job, because not only are they there to support the president's agenda, they're like the team member, the team mate to that president," Palin said.
"But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom. And it's a great job and I look forward to having that job," she said. |
http://www.videonewslive.com/view/269015/sarah_palin_says_vice_president_is_in_charge_of_us_senate |
Her writing reminds me of some of my Korean students. She is mixing plural with singular inappropriately, and she used a definite article in front of team member for no good reason. Of course, I am not a grammarian, I am not an expert on grammar, but I am not trying to become a major politician. If I were, I would make sure I know how to speak well enough in the language most used in the country unless I have an excuse, like Arnold Schwartzneggar, such as having been born in a foreign country. Schwartzneggar's first language is German. Palin's first language is English. I don't really want to say bad things about Palin, but she should quit trying to be in politics. She is making a fool out of herself. |
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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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"...a vice president has a really great job, because not only are they there to support the president's agenda, they're like the team member, the team mate to that president," Palin said.
"But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom. And it's a great job and I look forward to having that job," she said. |
http://www.videonewslive.com/view/269015/sarah_palin_says_vice_president_is_in_charge_of_us_senate |
Her writing reminds me of some of my Korean students. She is mixing plural with singular inappropriately, and she used a definite article in front of team member for no good reason. Of course, I am not a grammarian, I am not an expert on grammar, but I am not trying to become a major politician. If I were, I would make sure I know how to speak well enough in the language most used in the country unless I have an excuse, like Arnold Schwartzneggar, such as having been born in a foreign country. Schwartzneggar's first language is German. Palin's first language is English. I don't really want to say bad things about Palin, but she should quit trying to be in politics. She is making a fool out of herself. |
Are you kidding? She's perfect for the GOP anti-intellectuals who wear their dumbassdom like a badge of honour. The NASCAR crowd.
That's about it though. |
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bangbayed
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:30 am Post subject: |
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"...a vice president has a really great job, because not only are they there to support the president's agenda, they're like the team member, the team mate to that president," Palin said.
"But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom. And it's a great job and I look forward to having that job," she said. |
http://www.videonewslive.com/view/269015/sarah_palin_says_vice_president_is_in_charge_of_us_senate |
Her writing reminds me of some of my Korean students. ... |
That was a spoken quote. I have yet to see proof of her ability to write, although I'm sure it exists somewhere. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
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You liberal elitists with your insistence on sentences that make sense and facts that are actually true! Look down on the working families who make up the backbone of America why doncha? Doggone it!  |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: |
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"...a vice president has a really great job, because not only are they there to support the president's agenda, they're like the team member, the team mate to that president," Palin said.
"But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom. And it's a great job and I look forward to having that job," she said. |
http://www.videonewslive.com/view/269015/sarah_palin_says_vice_president_is_in_charge_of_us_senate |
Her writing reminds me of some of my Korean students. ... |
That was a spoken quote. I have yet to see proof of her ability to write, although I'm sure it exists somewhere. |
I'm sure her written efforts are filled with "lol's" and the like. |
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caniff
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Location: All over the map
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| Let's all get on the would-be First Dude's snowmachine and ride straight into Hell. You betcha!! |
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Gatsby
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"If there is anything I can be there to support, and in terms of reliability and you, Larry, is also a good job, is the cornerstone of our democracy, the credibility of the media, if I can help you build the credibility of the media and voters, I would like to help you want to see through the airwaves and print, so I can not believe you know everything." |
http://m.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/nov/13/littwin-political-junkies-get-nonstop-palin/
Can anyone translate this to English?
Well, there's always google.
Here's the Palin quote translated to Korean:
거기에 뭔가있다면 그건 내가 거기 지원 및 측면에서 신빙성있게 할 수있다 그리고 당신은, 래리, 저기도, 좋은 직업, 우리의 민주주의의 초석이라는 언론의 신뢰도, 만약 내가 도움을 구축할 수 있는지 언론에서 그 신뢰성과 유권자들은, 내가 원하는 것을 도울 수있을 그 공중파 및 인쇄를 통해보고되는 모든 것을 알고 믿을 수 있도록
Now here's the Korean translated to Norwegian:
Hvis det er noe jeg kan v�re der for � st�tte, og i form av troverdighet og du, Larry, er det ogs� en god jobb, er hj�rnesteinen i v�rt demokrati, p�liteligheten til media, hvis jeg kan hjelpe deg � bygge troverdighet i media Og velgerne, kan jeg hjelpe deg lyst til � se gjennom eteren og skrive ut, slik at jeg kan ikke tro du vet alt
Here's the Norwegian translated to Greek:
Εάν υπάρχει κάτι μπορώ να είμαι εκεί για να στηρίξουμε, όσο και στο επίπεδο της αξιοπιστίας και εσείς, Larry, είναι επίσης μια καλή δουλειά, είναι ο ακρογωνιαίος λίθος της δημοκρατίας μας, η αξιοπιστία των μέσων μαζικής ενημέρωσης, αν μπορώ να σας βοηθήσει να οικοδομήσουμε την αξιοπιστία των μέσων ενημέρωσης και ψηφοφόρους, θα ήθελα να σας βοηθήσει να θέλουν να δουν μέσω των ερτζιανών κυμάτων και από τα έντυπα, οπότε δεν μπορώ να πιστέψω γνωρίζετε τα πάντα
And here's the Greek translated back to English:
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| "And you know, Larry, there, too, if there is anything that I can do in terms of assisting there and allowing the credence, the credibility that that great vocation, that cornerstone of our democracy called the press, if I can help build up that credibility in the press and allow the electorate to know that they can believe everything that is reported through the airwaves and through print, I want to be able to help." |
Still doesn't help.
(Actually, I reversed the two Palin quotes in English. The last one is the real quote.) |
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Rum Jungle
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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Not a US politics follower but do you really get to be Governor of one of the 50 States if you're an idiot?
Not convinced that Mrs Palin is. While her spoken words transcribed on the page are grammatically terrible, you can usually get the gist of what she's saying.
Is all this a backlash against that other Governor, Bush of Texas, whose spoken English on the page reads so humourously?  |
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DCJames
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Her fake "folksiness" was annoying as hell. "You betcha!" "Doggoneit!"
Just SHUT THE #$% UP already!
Also, her character assassination of Obama as being unpatriotic during the last days of the campaign was disgusting. The McCain campaign had no message of their own so they resorted to vitriolic name-calling. How pathetic.
Palin is backwards and if you ever heard her husband speak you would realize that they are from a stock not quite refined. |
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