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how long would it take for your emp. to stop you fromleaving
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kiwiluvesyew



Joined: 29 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: how long would it take for your emp. to stop you fromleaving Reply with quote

basically, i've heard that all it takes is a phone call from your employer to immigration saying that you owe them money and immigration will stop you so that they can investigate the claim.

i've also heard that they would have to make a police report first, then call immigration and then you would be stopped.

i've also heard that you would have to have an actual court date in order for immigration to stop you.

I've also heard that if it's a money issue (owing for bills, damage to the apartment), then they have to go the court route, get a ruling against you, then file with Immigration to flag your account as a financial deadbeat. Next time you come through, Immi will most likely hold you to ask you what's what.

Clarification please.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, they'd have to know you were leaving in order to do that, now wouldn't they?

not that I'm advocating anyone doing anything inappropriate - not necessarily unethical (one might just be responding to one's particular situation) - but if the situation required one to make a hasty exit - perhaps it's best done as discreetly as possible -

hope this helps - love the avatar btw - Wink
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Teelo



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea how it works in Korea, but I do know that in NZ at least, immi need a court order* to stop someone who owes money from leaving the country, and the amount of money owed has to be over some threshold.

* Exception of traffic fines. Shared system and all. Even if you havent received the fricken fine in the mail yet Rolling Eyes
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MrRogers



Joined: 29 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bump
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Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: It could be true Reply with quote

They may be able to do that. I know employers here have the power to freeze your bank account with a simple phone call. It would depend on your visa status, I would assume. If you're leaving with plenty of time before your visa expires, they may be able to stop you and keep you here for a while. If you're bugging out with only a few days or even hours left on it, I doubt they could do anything. If you ever came back, though...

Damn I wish I could give you a straight answer.

Just do a quiet little runner if in doubt.
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inkoreaforgood



Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If immigration stops you, it better be for a damn good reason. Otherwise, you get on the phone to your embassy. You demand to talk to your embassy, no ifs and or buts.

There has to be something in the system for them to stop you, ie, court case, arrest warrant, etc. If your employer makes a fake police report, well that's some serious shit here. That's jail time, guarenteed.
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jadarite



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Location: Andong, Yeongyang, Seoul, now Pyeongtaek

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does an employee owe the employer money? It should be the other way around.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like the other posters said immi cannot stop you from leaving unless there's court order from serious criminal or civil case (immigration violation as well).

If immi tries to stop you from leaving for some BS reason w/o court order, get on the horn with your embassy asap. You'll be on the plane asap.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jadarite wrote:
How does an employee owe the employer money? It should be the other way around.


it could be airfare (if leaving before 6 months or if there's a really bad clause in the contract), settlement allowance (PS), or some "recruiter" fee reimbursement clause if leaving before a certain time.

OP, if you're worried and your boss is crooked, then do a quiet midnight run on the weekend. he won't be contacting immi or the police if he thinks you're coming in to work monday.
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highdials5



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a few theoretical questions about pulling a runner. What usually happens once you are out of the country? Is it just a nasty email from your employer, then end of story? Or are there other potential consequences such as them trying to chase you down (if you owe money for flights etc)? Thanks...
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curlyhoward



Joined: 03 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

highdials5 wrote:
I have a few theoretical questions about pulling a runner. What usually happens once you are out of the country? Is it just a nasty email from your employer, then end of story? Or are there other potential consequences such as them trying to chase you down (if you owe money for flights etc)? Thanks...


Your employer might send you an email threatening to do etc.

Just reply with a "have a nice day" and an attachment photo of your naked butt. Once you are out of the country, all he can do is kiss your butt!
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Sody



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pull a runner, nothing they can do.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

highdials5 wrote:
I have a few theoretical questions about pulling a runner. What usually happens once you are out of the country? Is it just a nasty email from your employer, then end of story? Or are there other potential consequences such as them trying to chase you down (if you owe money for flights etc)? Thanks...


They can't do anything to you. Once you are clear of Korea, PLEASE post the name of the hagwon and the full story. Help others by telling us about one more hogwan to avoid.
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: It could be true Reply with quote

Tobias wrote:
I know employers here have the power to freeze your bank account with a simple phone call.

Just do a quiet little runner if in doubt.


Exactly why I have TWO bank accounts, one they deposit the money into, one for the money I remove from that account immediately upon receipt. A little extra legwork, but they can't touch the second account since they never made any direct deposits into it.
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ijustcamealongfortheride



Joined: 07 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: It could be true Reply with quote

ChinaBoy wrote:


Exactly why I have TWO bank accounts, one they deposit the money into, one for the money I remove from that account immediately upon receipt.


Question about that...

Hopefully this isn't too naive, but would it be feasible for me to withdraw the money and dump it into the account I'm using here in the States and just continue using my debit card for purchases? This is assuming I could wire the money from account to account electronically, of course....
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