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CA-NA-DA-ABC



Joined: 20 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:56 pm    Post subject: getting certified in Canada/USA? Reply with quote

I'm thinking of getting certified in Canada or the US next year to become a high school/secondary teacher.

I'm Canadian and I have a science degree.
I don't want to/have to stay in Canada, my main goal is to have the freedom to teach anywhere in the world as I please.

So my question is this. does an American certificate offer more portability in terms of international teaching opportunities? or should a Canadian certificate suffice?

what I mean by "opportunities" is obviously non-ESL jobs, teaching sciences.
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Seoul'n'Corea



Joined: 06 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:34 am    Post subject: Re: getting certified in Canada/USA? Reply with quote

CA-NA-DA-ABC wrote:
I'm thinking of getting certified in Canada or the US next year to become a high school/secondary teacher.

I'm Canadian and I have a science degree.
I don't want to/have to stay in Canada, my main goal is to have the freedom to teach anywhere in the world as I please.

So my question is this. does an American certificate offer more portability in terms of international teaching opportunities? or should a Canadian certificate suffice?

what I mean by "opportunities" is obviously non-ESL jobs, teaching sciences.


umm so you are doing a PDP program at a University? Thats at least 2 years and a lot of work. Good luck. Normally it takes 5 years in Canada, at least in BC and 4 years in the US.
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joshuahirtle27



Joined: 23 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Canada you're looking at a 1-2 year B.Ed degree and some schools aren't recognized by other provinces. To teach Sciences you may want to also look into a MSC in something but it's not required to teach at all levels.
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polonius



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a couple Universities in Buffalo that you can take a B.Ed course, you can either take it full time for 1 year, or part-time for 18 months, and this will certify you in Ontario and many of the States. It will also allow you to teach at international schools around the world. (Don't remember the names of the Universities off hand. Maybe they will come to me later)

In Canada, if you get a B.Ed in one province, you need to work in that province first before you can be eligible to work in other provinces.

You can get a teacher's certificate in the U.S. which is not a B.Ed and will allow you to teach in certain states that recognize that college's certificate.
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Dude Ranch



Joined: 04 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

polonius wrote:
There are a couple Universities in Buffalo that you can take a B.Ed course, you can either take it full time for 1 year, or part-time for 18 months, and this will certify you in Ontario and many of the States. It will also allow you to teach at international schools around the world. (Don't remember the names of the Universities off hand. Maybe they will come to me later)


You may be refering to Niagara university just over the border in New York. An ex-gf of mine from Toronto went to teacher's college there and is now back teaching in the Toronto area
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polonius



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude Ranch wrote:
polonius wrote:
There are a couple Universities in Buffalo that you can take a B.Ed course, you can either take it full time for 1 year, or part-time for 18 months, and this will certify you in Ontario and many of the States. It will also allow you to teach at international schools around the world. (Don't remember the names of the Universities off hand. Maybe they will come to me later)


You may be refering to Niagara university just over the border in New York. An ex-gf of mine from Toronto went to teacher's college there and is now back teaching in the Toronto area


Ahhh... D'Youville in Buffalo is the one I was thinking of.
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CA-NA-DA-ABC



Joined: 20 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just checked a bunch of schools that offer NY-Ontario certificate programs. Tuition is in the 20-22k range, which is a tad high for my liking.
I'm a British Columbian and SFU's tuition is just over 7k, UBC's is just over 12k.

this begs the question to be asked again: do Canadian certificates offer international job opportunities on par with American teacher certification? If the answer is anything reasonably close to yes, then I might just get my B.Ed. in BC. I can even save rent and living expenses by commuting to school from home.
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Girlygirl



Joined: 31 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey OP

As far as I know, if you have a teacher's certificate, you can teach at an international school (I don't mean a hagwon) A school that all the foreign people who live abroad and have children, like Army people. And they want their children to attend an English speaking school. Since Science is your teachable, you teach that instead of ESL. There are tons of these schools in Vietnam, I'm not sure they have them in Korea though....I don't see why not.

BTW, you do know all the requirements to get your B. Ed in Canada right?

If you do go to a US school, such as U. of Niagara, you can get the Master's instead of the B. Edu with the same amount of time (12-15 months) Not to mention, not much difference in the workload and tuition. Weird eh?

Whereas in Canada, you have to get your B. Ed first then your Master's., both take about 2 years or more. And the tuition is a little cheaper compare to the US, I think it's about $5,000

Good luck!
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Atramentous



Joined: 12 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sort of had the same idea...I was overseas and teaching and when I got back the the US, I started a teaching certificate course. There are quite a few programs in the US (do not know about CND) that cater to people holding uni degrees that want to teach. Science is a high demand subject - I believe that only Math might be more in demand. If you pursue the right sort of complementary education you will be able to find work rather quickly as a science teacher. It is also advisable to try and be certified in at least two subjects. They do not need to be in the same area - you could teach chemistry and art. It all depends on the credit hours that you have in your transcript.
A teaching certificate will allow you to teach in international schools pretty much anywhere - but the language of instruction usually has to be english unless you have the papers to prove fluency in another language.
To be on the safe side you should look into the different sorts of degrees/certificates and see where they are accepted. I only say this assuming that you already know where you would like to be employed. Look at your destination's requirements.
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anyangoldboy



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at Potsdam and canesia Spl
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Primary / Junior certification in Ontario there doesn't seem to be any Ontario Teacher's College requirement for Math or Science courses.

But most of these NY Universities seem to demand a full course year in science AND in math. Anyone know anywhere where you can get an Ontario Certification for Primary and Junior in a 12 month program and not have to do pre-requiste courses in Science and Math? My degree has History, English, Philosophy, Economics and Business - but no science and math. And I'd hate to have to put in extra time ahead of the 1year B.ed.
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFU is a good school I would just do it there. How long does it take? Australia is also a good option through distance education. It takes about one year in Aus on top of another degree.
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ReeseDog



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now in the US if you're a certified Math, Science, Foreign Language, or Special Ed teacher, you can pretty much pick your school.
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