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Gopher
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| Like, say, Southwest Airlines, Canuckistan? Stay on point, please. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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mises
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
| Many people in Canada make a such a crusade out of their political correctness that they are able to detect the event horizon of their own stupidity. |
It really can be a bizarre country sometimes. The extent to which "rights" claptrap has invaded all aspects of public discourse is in my opinion extremely unhealthy. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| This means if you can afford to overeat, then you can afford to pay 2 airfares should you be that fat... |
But Canadian authorities are not reasonining like this. They have deemed obsesity "a disability" as in our "Americans with Disabilities Act." And they have included obese people with wheelchairbound people, etc. Same thing to them. Disabled people require special protections for inclusion in society, etc.
I must say, I remain disatissfied with this precedent and I hope it does not spread southward... |
Are you kidding? The US is the poster boy for people not taking responsibility for their actions and then finding someone to sue for it as well!
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Looks like the stupidity has spread northwards. |
This is absolutely pathetic. Canuckistan, there is one country in the world where the Supreme Court has upheld (albiet by refusing to take the case, I don't know how that works . . . ) special rights of the obese to fly airplanes. And you're attributing this on the US?
Major loss of credibility, Canuckistan.
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| The extent to which "rights" claptrap has invaded all aspects of public discourse is in my opinion extremely unhealthy. |
When and how did this start? This is fascinating.
Anybody know anything about Canadian Constitutional law? I can't search for Canadian cases on Westlaw. |
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mises
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sharkey
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Id rather have fatties with two seats then having to sit beside one. My god, there isn't enough room in those seats as it is, nevermind a person with arm fat drooped past your arm rest and into your lap. Give these people 2 seats, for the concern and consideration of others who may be unlucky and forced to sit beside them. |
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sharkey
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Canada is full of fatties, especially in Fredericton, I think we're the fattest city in Canada, and the gayest too, lol. Oh god! |
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canuckistan
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kotakji
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| At the risk of further inflaming this ridiculous argument, but what happens on airplanes that have a 3x3x3 or similar arrangements. The basic functions of a seat precludes someone from sitting halfway in between two of them. So in the case of a 3 seat section is the airline supposed to vacate one seat only to make the third seat customer suffer? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| What? |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:51 am Post subject: Re: This makes me proud to be Canadian |
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Obese have right to 2 airline seats: Canada court
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OTTAWA (Reuters) - Obese people have the right to two seats for the price of one on flights within Canada, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled on Thursday.
The high court declined to hear an appeal by Canadian airlines of a decision by the Canadian Transportation Agency that people who are "functionally disabled by obesity" deserve to have two seats for one fare.
The airlines had lost an appeal at the Federal Court of Appeal in May and had sought to launch a fresh appeal at the Supreme Court. The court's decision not to hear a new appeal means the one-person-one-fare policy stands.
The appeal had been launched by Air Canada, Air Canada Jazz and WestJet. |
Are you serious? They have a RIGHT to two seats for the price of one. A "RIGHT"? Are they serious and this was passed through legislation to create this right?
I have no problem with larger people getting two seats, particularly if the airlines offer it individually...but the government instituting it is as a'right' with the idea of 'two-seats-for-one' deal...c'mon.
Poor people have a 'right to eat', but that doesn't mean the government should come in and make laws for 'two-for-one' deals at all restaurants because of it.
In the end, it just means everyone in Canada will pay slightly higher airfares depending on how low the 'obesity' level is to qualify for this 'right'.
I'm most curious how they will gauge 'obesity'...as most western countries, it is something like 30% of the population is termed 'obese'. It will be interesting to see what the Canadian government will use to define obesity. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: Re: This makes me proud to be Canadian |
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Obese have right to 2 airline seats: Canada court
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OTTAWA (Reuters) - Obese people have the right to two seats for the price of one on flights within Canada, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled on Thursday.
The high court declined to hear an appeal by Canadian airlines of a decision by the Canadian Transportation Agency that people who are "functionally disabled by obesity" deserve to have two seats for one fare.
The airlines had lost an appeal at the Federal Court of Appeal in May and had sought to launch a fresh appeal at the Supreme Court. The court's decision not to hear a new appeal means the one-person-one-fare policy stands.
The appeal had been launched by Air Canada, Air Canada Jazz and WestJet. |
Are you serious? They have a RIGHT to two seats for the price of one. A "RIGHT"? |
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Canada can be a very strange place. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: Re: This makes me proud to be Canadian |
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| mises wrote: |
| Tiger Beer wrote: |
Obese have right to 2 airline seats: Canada court
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OTTAWA (Reuters) - Obese people have the right to two seats for the price of one on flights within Canada, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled on Thursday.
The high court declined to hear an appeal by Canadian airlines of a decision by the Canadian Transportation Agency that people who are "functionally disabled by obesity" deserve to have two seats for one fare.
The airlines had lost an appeal at the Federal Court of Appeal in May and had sought to launch a fresh appeal at the Supreme Court. The court's decision not to hear a new appeal means the one-person-one-fare policy stands.
The appeal had been launched by Air Canada, Air Canada Jazz and WestJet. |
Are you serious? They have a RIGHT to two seats for the price of one. A "RIGHT"? |
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Canada can be a very strange place. |
Its not a right. Nowhere does the decision call it a right. That's the reporter's addition.
There's a statute that allows those with disabilities compensation if they are presented with an undue obstacle. The Parliament didn't define disability in the statute, so the plaintiff introduced the WHO's ICF determination, and Air Canada did not object! Point is, obesity MAY constitute a disability, but its referenced to context. I.e., is there an undue obstacle?
This is so far removed from giving all obese a right to two seats that the reporter should be fired. I mean, seroiusly.
Thanks to Canuckistan for providing the case. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| This is so far removed from giving all obese a right to two seats that the reporter should be fired. I mean, seriously. |
Welcome to journalism.
I wish I had the cite, but several years ago a local Las Vegas newsstation reported a national poll where pollsters had asked Americans where they preferred to retire. This poll ranked Las Vegas seventh or eighth in the nation. Miami, San Diego, others ranked higher.
But the local newsstation became outraged. And they reported the story like this: "Well, according to this poll, Americans think Las Vegas is a nice place to visit, but you wouldn't wanna live there..."
Get real, I thought. But I noticed the same thing: those who report the news sometimes not only spin it, but they alter it to serve their own purposes. |
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Quack Addict
Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Why not just sell seats instead of fares?
Anyway, I'm not obese, but I am tall and never have enough legroom. I want a special seat, too. |
It's called first class...buy a ticket. |
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