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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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 Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| ManintheMiddle wrote: |
newton observed:
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| Of course this not only a Black American problem, but as a group they do have the highest debt to income ratio in the USA. |
And this willingness to take on debt which, as you correctly cite, is disportionately higher in the Black community, stems from a sense of entitlement too. |
Really? Last I looked, the CEOs of Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Citibank, Wachovia, Washington Mutual, and all the other banks that have failed were white. Hmm, so much for that theory.
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| I'll bet that half a century ago most if not nearly all Black families lived well within their (meager) means. |
Oh for the days when blacks couldn't buy houses because they were locked out of the housing market. Or couldn't get a loan because banks were for whites only. Those were the good old days.
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| You can thank affirmative action and the Al Sharptons and his white liberal supporters for that change. |
Dang that Lincoln. Rabble rouser. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, H-diddy. Americans are just not buying what you are selling anymore...
| Luci Baines Johnson wrote: |
Forty-four years ago on November 2, 1964, I returned to Austin, Texas, with my parents and gave my last campaign speech at a rally in front of the Texas Capitol.
After campaigning in 26 states for five months I never got to vote for Daddy on November 3 -- I was just 16 and too young to vote.
My father's dream was to open the doors of opportunity to all Americans regardless of the color of their skin or the quantity of their pocketbook.
On November 4, Barack Obama made good on those dreams...
On November 5, I stood in my office with one Jew, one naturalized American, one Catholic, four Protestant women, two white and two black. Among them was a McCain supporter. We joined arms and sang:
"We shall stand together
We shall stand together
We shall stand together now
Deep in my heart I do believe
We shall overcome someday"
Election Night 2008 we overcame... |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:26 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Sorry, H-diddy. Americans are just not buying what you are selling anymore... |
I imagine they felt the same when Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. Or when Marshall was appointed to the Supreme Court. Or when Dr. King gave his famous speech. Unfortunately, one man doesn't change the fortunes for the millions who are still struggling to get by. |
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seosan08
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
| Sorry, H-diddy. Americans are just not buying what you are selling anymore... |
I imagine they felt the same when Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. Or when Marshall was appointed to the Supreme Court. Or when Dr. King gave his famous speech. Unfortunately, one man doesn't change the fortunes for the millions who are still struggling to get by. |
HuffDaddy's been at the fumes again, kills brain cells! Why don't you go to Harlem and tell them how much you identify with them and are their brother! See how long you're able to stand up, much less breathe!  |
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ManintheMiddle
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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huffnpuffdaddy wrote:
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| I imagine they felt the same when Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. Or when Marshall was appointed to the Supreme Court. Or when Dr. King gave his famous speech. Unfortunately, one man doesn't change the fortunes for the millions who are still struggling to get by. |
There is no end your unearned cynicism and manufactured indignation, is there? Your ilk won't be content until America is a utopia, which of course it will never be--same as any other advanced society. No, what you're content to do is relentlessly badmouth us because you feel entitled to pass judgment on a society which you don't even have a personal stake in. Now if that isn't the height of arrogance, I don't know what it is.
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| Sorry, H-diddy. Americans are just not buying what you are selling anymore... |
This is an appropriate epitaph for huffnpuff daddy.
Oh, and by the way, HPD:
No one was pining for imagined good ol' days. As usual, you neatly sidestepped my point by resorting to sarcasm. At least that's a step up from race-baiting. But the fact remains that the Black community is in a very bad way, and many leading social indicators are worse than they've ever been despite far greater opportunities for self-improvement. Only a moron or victim-monger can't see that. My wife and I just returned from San Francisco where on three separate occasions Black men in their 50's and 60's lamented the demise of their community, blaming their brethren for the crisis. But you of course don't get your news from sources that matter most. Instead you rely on the clueless Far Left media. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:31 am Post subject: |
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| Man Side A wrote: |
| Your ilk won't be content until America is a utopia, which of course it will never be--same as any other advanced society. No, what you're content to do is relentlessly badmouth us because you feel entitled to pass judgment on a society which you don't even have a personal stake in. Now if that isn't the height of arrogance, I don't know what it is. |
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| But the fact remains that the Black community is in a very bad way, and many leading social indicators are worse than they've ever been despite far greater opportunities for self-improvement. Only a moron or victim-monger can't see that. My wife and I just returned from San Francisco where on three separate occasions Black men in their 50's and 60's lamented the demise of their community, blaming their brethren for the crisis. |
Physician, heal thyself. |
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ManintheMiddle
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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huffddaddy wrote:
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| Physician, heal thyself. |
My point, which either conveniently or obtusely escaped you, is that your comments on the matter are highly suspect given that you aren't a citizen and therefore don't have a personal stake in the outcome. Nor have you lived and worked in the Black community.
So there's nothing for me to heal, as I qualify on both counts. Moreover, what I've said has been echoed by any number of Black intellectuals who aren't eager to climb aboard the Victimhood Soul Train.
Thanks for playing. Plug another quarter. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| ManintheMiddle wrote: |
huffddaddy wrote:
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| Physician, heal thyself. |
My point, which either conveniently or obtusely escaped you, is that your comments on the matter are highly suspect given that you aren't a citizen and therefore don't have a personal stake in the outcome. Nor have you lived and worked in the Black community. |
There you go, you're be an assumer again. You're wrong on all counts, bubba.
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So there's nothing for me to heal, as I qualify on both counts. Moreover, what I've said has been echoed by any number of Black intellectuals who aren't eager to climb aboard the Victimhood Soul Train.
Thanks for playing. Plug another quarter. |
So let's summarize the MoronintheMiddle's point of view:
someone else criticizing the black community = passing judgement
MoronintheMiddle criticizing the black community = echoing black intellectuals
someone else saying something good about the black community = in denial
MoronintheMiddle saying something good about the black community = a personal stake
Bunked. |
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Bucheonguy
Joined: 23 Oct 2008
Location: Bucheon
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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I find the whole thing really sad. I know how much of a gap there is between black and white Americans. I know how jerked around they get. Katrina is a prime example. However, what's sad is the fact they think that an Obama victory means anything for them. It doesn't. It doesn't mean a damn thing. It's hollow symbolism. He's gonna *beep* every last one of them over because race is an illusion. Power is the determiner, not skin colour and it's pissing me off that everyone things it's going to be so different under a president that's a different colour.
For example, look at all of the people he appointed to positions! Most of them were Bill's team back in the 90s... the same people that contributed to the goddamn economic crisis.
As further proof that race means nothing, look at Condeleeza Rice. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The worst thing that could have happened, is how much blind faith people have no put into this man. The worst thing that's happened is the fact that if he's challenged, the race card is easily played.
People need to stop taking things at face value and wake up! He doesn't give a damn about any of us! He'll *beep* everyone as much as Bush did. The only difference is it's going to be a smoother *beep* because he's so damn charismatic.
I am by no means a republican supporter either. |
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