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What are the terms of your after school classes?
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: What are the terms of your after school classes? Reply with quote

I've asked to teach after school classes at my public school next year, but my school seems to have a weird system in place. The students who enroll in any after school class pay 40,000 won, and that covers 20 hours worth of classes. I'd only be getting 2,000 won/hour per student. Teaching 10 students for a measley 20,000 won, which would then be taxed, hardly seems worth it. What are the terms of your after school classes? How many hours do you teach a month, how many students do you have a class, and what is the pay like?
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach a couple of after school classes a week and get the standard 20K/class. That's what the contract says (GEPIK) and I don't have a choice as it's there in black and white. I often wonder about all those guys who say they have special terms regarding their after school classes and are often paid at a much higher rate. How exactly do they negotiate such terms, and why does the school agree to pay them at a rate much higher than what the contract says. (especially, when they are obligated to teach an exra 6 classes a week at the said rate). While I don't doubt that it happens, I don't think it is as widespread as it appears on Dave's. Then again, every 2nd guy on Dave's is pulling 4mill/month teaching 3 hours a week with 9 months paid vacation.
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alex83



Joined: 03 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My normal contract hours are 8:20-4:20.
I teach a supplementary class from 3:30-5:00.
Even though I only go over my contract time by 40 min., I get paid 30,000 for each hour. I also do this non-sense "English Plaza" where I basically go on field trips (movies, noraebang) with the kids and get 30,000/h as well.
90,000 to watch Mamma Mia...hmmm...almost worth it Smile
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Billos



Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then again, every 2nd guy on Dave's is pulling 4mill/month teaching 3 hours a week with 9 months paid vacation.


So true


Although I actually do pull in around 5million won a month, don't even teach I just stand in class looking pretty for 2 hours a week.
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex83 wrote:
My normal contract hours are 8:20-4:20.
I teach a supplementary class from 3:30-5:00.
Even though I only go over my contract time by 40 min., I get paid 30,000 for each hour. I also do this non-sense "English Plaza" where I basically go on field trips (movies, noraebang) with the kids and get 30,000/h as well.
90,000 to watch Mamma Mia...hmmm...almost worth it Smile


How did you get 30,000/hr? How many kids are in the class? Do the kids pay for the class or are you paid by your school?
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English Matt



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of GEPIK schools seem to pay 30,000 for OT now, even though 20,000 is in the contract. It depends on the school, but most people I know who work in the GEPIK program get 30,000. Your school can always go above that if they so desire. I get 50,000 an hour for a debate class I do after school; although that is mainly because the class is later in the evening and lasts for an hour and a half, so I think my school felt they had to offer more to convince me to do it (oh if only they'd known, I'd have sold myself for a packet of biscuits Smile
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alex83



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xCustomx wrote:
alex83 wrote:
My normal contract hours are 8:20-4:20.
I teach a supplementary class from 3:30-5:00.
Even though I only go over my contract time by 40 min., I get paid 30,000 for each hour. I also do this non-sense "English Plaza" where I basically go on field trips (movies, noraebang) with the kids and get 30,000/h as well.
90,000 to watch Mamma Mia...hmmm...almost worth it Smile


How did you get 30,000/hr? How many kids are in the class? Do the kids pay for the class or are you paid by your school?


I get 30k/h because, since the class goes past 4:20 (thus, past my contracted hours), classes are 100% optional to do and rates 100% negotiable. Knowing that, my school offered me 30k/h for each hour to make it worth my while.
I'm paid by the school. For the English Plaza thing, I'm also paid by the school, but they get their budget directly from the local office of ed.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach 4 teacher training classes per week at 17k for a 40 min class... Though I also negociated pushing back our winter camp for a week so that I could have 10 days vacation during the break (not supposed to have more than 5 days off in the first 6 months of my contract) so I don't mind the lower pay so much...
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alex83



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

egrog1717 wrote:
I teach 4 teacher training classes per week at 17k for a 40 min class... Though I also negociated pushing back our winter camp for a week so that I could have 10 days vacation during the break (not supposed to have more than 5 days off in the first 6 months of my contract) so I don't mind the lower pay so much...


who is your contract with??
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egrog1717



Joined: 12 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex83 wrote:
egrog1717 wrote:
I teach 4 teacher training classes per week at 17k for a 40 min class... Though I also negociated pushing back our winter camp for a week so that I could have 10 days vacation during the break (not supposed to have more than 5 days off in the first 6 months of my contract) so I don't mind the lower pay so much...


who is your contract with??


SMOE... It says 20k per 50 min class (which I told them I would do...) but w/e... I got the time off I needed for my gf to come and visit so that made me happy, lol...
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D.D.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One school offers 30000 a class and the other pays 25000 a month per student which adds up to about 400000 a month.
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Ukon



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in SMOE...so here's my experience.....I talked with my co=-teacher...the one who's the head teacher...who's also my pal...I also dropped hints before hand and made comments about the pay from other programs...

However she took the iniative when discussing pay and told me she got me 23.000 won a child. She did it becuase she likes me as a friend or so she infers...

Just remember to keep on the good side of your staff... and if they ask about getting info from other schools based on their after school class rate..make sure to give them the school phone numbers of friends who has schools that pay alot.
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alex83



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

egrog1717 wrote:
alex83 wrote:
egrog1717 wrote:
I teach 4 teacher training classes per week at 17k for a 40 min class... Though I also negociated pushing back our winter camp for a week so that I could have 10 days vacation during the break (not supposed to have more than 5 days off in the first 6 months of my contract) so I don't mind the lower pay so much...


who is your contract with??


SMOE... It says 20k per 50 min class (which I told them I would do...) but w/e... I got the time off I needed for my gf to come and visit so that made me happy, lol...


How many vacation days do SMOE teachers get?
Also, I've never heard of that 6-month stipulation you mentioned.
Is that standard for SMOE contracts?
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QbertP



Joined: 02 Feb 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've taught through EPIK and through SMOE and both times the going rate for my time was 45K per "hour" (45min) I've never had a contract that required extra classes. Unless your contract says otherwise your not required to do them and the pay is not fixed.
I would very nicely bring the low pay to the attention of your supervisor and explain that this is not a common practice(among english teachers you have spoken to) and that you would like the higher rate and, again nicely, that for only half of what you expected it seems like it's not worth your time.

Or just do it.
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egrog1717



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alex83 wrote:
egrog1717 wrote:
alex83 wrote:
egrog1717 wrote:
I teach 4 teacher training classes per week at 17k for a 40 min class... Though I also negociated pushing back our winter camp for a week so that I could have 10 days vacation during the break (not supposed to have more than 5 days off in the first 6 months of my contract) so I don't mind the lower pay so much...


who is your contract with??


SMOE... It says 20k per 50 min class (which I told them I would do...) but w/e... I got the time off I needed for my gf to come and visit so that made me happy, lol...


How many vacation days do SMOE teachers get?
Also, I've never heard of that 6-month stipulation you mentioned.
Is that standard for SMOE contracts?



SMOE teachers get 21 days per year, but the contract says that you're not allowed to take more than 5 in the first 6 months unless your principal agrees. That was standard with the Aug. 2008 contract... Not sure about others... I wanted to take more of my vacation earlier, the principal wanted teacher training classes, so we both got a good deal...
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