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Does the Korean Mafia Control the Bars in PArts of Itaewan
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MA_TESOL



Joined: 11 Nov 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Does the Korean Mafia Control the Bars in PArts of Itaewan Reply with quote

I was in a bar (not a juicy bar) in Itaewan and saw the owner slip an envelope that looked like it was packed with won, to some Korean genlemen. Makes me think that it was protection money. Maybe I have too much of an imagination. Not sure I want to frequent bars that have a relationship with the Korean mafia
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Hobophobic



Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Location: Sinjeong negorie mokdong oh ga ri samgyup sal fighting

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Does the Korean Mafia Control the Bars in PArts of Itaew Reply with quote

MA_TESOL wrote:
I was in a bar (not a juicy bar) in Itaewan and saw the owner slip an envelope that looked like it was packed with won, to some Korean genlemen. Makes me think that it was protection money. Maybe I have too much of an imagination. Not sure I want to frequent bars that have a relationship with the Korean mafia


Sometimes it is a city inspector, liquor commission, police officer when it is a new business...they like their envelopes of cash to allow a business to go forward whether it is doing anything wrong or not...never know....
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egrog1717



Joined: 12 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL... Does Korea even have a Mafia?

I just have visions of a bunch of Ajossi sitting around drinking Soju talking about other times they sat around and drank Soju...

In fact... From hence forth I shall call them the "Sojuafia!" Very Happy
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chevro1et



Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Location: Busan, ROK

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, there most certainly are Korean gangsters/ mafia. Been at few places where they have made their presence felt. They had absolutely no interest in me, but they were definitely 'conducting business' with some other individuals there.
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Ultimo Hombre



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
Location: BEER STORE

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a group of street vendors around Sinchon that have a sign posted on their stands when they are closed calling the cops out because some organized criminals are extorting them out of their livelihoods and the cops fail to do anything as usual.

They exist.
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Louie



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "Chopok" own or 'protect' more than half of the Korean owned and operated bars and clubs in Itaewon.

.....after a night of heavy partying one time, me and some friends ended up at the Manhattan restuarant across the street from Club Rio. We were seated near a bunch of tables put together where a gaggle of Russian chicks were seated. Evidently they were brought into Korea to work as "entertainers" in the area Korean clubs.
I remember hearing several strongly protesting what they got themselves into and some tall guys came and took them by their arms away from the table.
There was a story a long time back about an ex-Navy guy who taught in Korea who 'disappeared' because he owed the Chopok money......
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been told by a few Koreans, and you can take that for whatever it is worth, that the entire liquor trade is controlled by the mafa. As for individual bars in Itaewon, your guess is as good as mine.

And, yes, there most certainly are Korean gangs and organized crime elements.
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HijackedTwilight



Joined: 15 Jan 2008
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Korean mob doesn't get press like the Yakuza, or the ethnic mobs back home, but that's probably how they like it. Their fingers are in many bean cakes. They even take a piece from the old blind beggars drifting through subway cars playing Church music recordings.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of my students, among them a few police officers, told me that there are loan sharks in Myeong-dong. If a man doesn't pay their loan, they're sent to work off their debt on a fishing boat, and a woman is sold into prostitution. That sounds like gangster activity to me.
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crescent



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this was an entertaining thread on the subject.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=96276&highlight=
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard that the Korean mafia is involved with gambling. Bars? Probably.
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The Great Toad



Joined: 12 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If a man doesn't pay their loan, they're sent to work off their debt on a fishing boat, and a woman is sold into prostitution. That sounds like gangster activity to me.


There is nothing better for a man than a 20 hour day of Sea Fishing to forge him into Whale HUnter as great as Herman Mel...

However if the seconf part is true it sounds as if I am going to have to save some ladies by thee Might of my peerless arm and the Terrible RIghteous Wraith of my English Bastard Swerd- give me details on this and the men doing so, and as sure as Don Quioxte was The Knight of The Lions, I will not spare them from the judgement that their vile guilts merit... I shall make a specail trip to Seoul to show them my Sumo Champion Skillz and they will ponder on their backs the error of their foul ways towards the poor gentle sex.
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i4NI



Joined: 17 May 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone in another thread awhile back said there was Yakuza presence in Myoungdong. I don't know if I believe it, but I wish he woulda went more into detail.
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crazy_arcade



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They definitely do exist.

My girlfriend's high school friend's dad is at the top of the Anyang branch.
Her boyfriend is also a gangster...I've met him and he just minds his business. However, if anyone ever gets in the way of his business...the thugs get called out hardcore.

Prostitution, night clubs, gambling, meth, loan sharking...that's what gangsters here are into. I've never heard about people being made to work on fishing boats...but I have heard of hooker island.
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Frankly Mr Shankly



Joined: 13 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazy_arcade wrote:
.but I have heard of hooker island.


Do tell, enquiring minds want to know.
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