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Cornfed
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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Well according to the Wikipedia article, about 1% of the general population are psycopaths. I'm sure that some of them are women. However even if all are women, 1% is a long way short of all women isn't it?
Now some published studies please. Or are you just going to generalise about all women, because your mommy didn't breast feed you as a child? |
The reason most women are not diagnosed as psychopaths is that in this warped culture psychopathic behavior is seen as their birthright. If men, or women from other societies, started behaving like Western women then they would likely be diagnosed as clinical psychopaths and medical science would be scrambling to find what disease they had contracted. However, if you must have a link, here's one to a survey showing that large percentages of women admit to being lying scumbags, and then you have to factor in those who are lying about their lying. This of course just confirms what everyone already knows � that most Western women lie all the time about everything.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/139/139613_women_lie_cheat_and_steal.html?ref=emtaf&archive=archive
For more explanation about the generally horrific nature of Western women you could look at this photo blog that I linked to in another thread which seems to have disappeared.
http://theproblemwithwomentoday-reality2008.blogspot.com/ |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. You are either the best troll ever or in need of some serious help. You are so fucked up you can't even grasp why that link was removed.
Seriously man, link me to the thread where you lay out just what happened to you in order to begin to think in such a way. I'm curious, from a crimina...I mean clinical pyschology point of view. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Perceptioncheck wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
| ...it is men who overwhelmingly commit abuse of a sexual or violent nature. While the other kinds of abuse are not to be sniffed at, violence and sexual abuse are the types of abuse I most fear as a parent. Therefore, to minimise risk, if given a choice of gender and all other things being equal, I would choose the woman |
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| At no time did I say that all men abuse kids. |
I never said you said "all men abuse kids." I said you suspect men of sex abuse which is clear from what you wrote above. Use that dictionary you keep talking about to see that "suspect" does NOT mean "everybody definitely."
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Er, actually the part about how it's men who overwhelmingly commit abuse of a sexual or violent nature is taken out of context. In fact, she was quoting YOUR article, which you used to assert that women are the perpetrators in 60% of abuse cases.
Do you even read the links that you post? |
I am perfectly aware of what the article I posted states. You should try reading it again, especially the part where it says
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| 60% of perpetrators are FEMALE. |
Paraphasic responses can be indicative of psychosis. Did you have a point, or do you normally just ramble on incoherently? |
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Perceptioncheck
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Perceptioncheck wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
| ...it is men who overwhelmingly commit abuse of a sexual or violent nature. While the other kinds of abuse are not to be sniffed at, violence and sexual abuse are the types of abuse I most fear as a parent. Therefore, to minimise risk, if given a choice of gender and all other things being equal, I would choose the woman |
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| At no time did I say that all men abuse kids. |
I never said you said "all men abuse kids." I said you suspect men of sex abuse which is clear from what you wrote above. Use that dictionary you keep talking about to see that "suspect" does NOT mean "everybody definitely."
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Er, actually the part about how it's men who overwhelmingly commit abuse of a sexual or violent nature is taken out of context. In fact, she was quoting YOUR article, which you used to assert that women are the perpetrators in 60% of abuse cases.
Do you even read the links that you post? |
I am perfectly aware of what the article I posted states. You should try reading it again, especially the part where it says
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| 60% of perpetrators are FEMALE. |
Paraphasic responses can be indicative of psychosis. Did you have a point, or do you normally just ramble on incoherently? |
LOL. Resorting to name calling, huh? Can't think of anything better to say, huh?
Perhaps you should read my post about that link again bacasper. . .or should I call you Cornfed?!! 
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If you'll look at the study that BB quoted, it does explicitly state that abuse of a violent and/or sexual nature is overwhelmingly committed by males.
Here you go
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D. Characteristics of Abuser
60% of perpetrators are FEMALE
Substance abuse, poverty, poor impulse control
Physical and sexual abusers are usually MALE
And yes, while 60% of perpetrators are indeed female, please look at the types of abuse in the study;
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B. Types of Maltreatment
63%: Neglect � most common cause of death in children 0-3 (36%)
19%: Physical abuse
10%: Sexual abuse
5%: Emotional abuse/neglect
11%: Other
C. Incidence
Neglect is cited as the most common type of maltreatment. The study doesn't give details on what is considered neglect; is neglect turning your back on you child for two seconds which results in a senseless tragedy, or is neglect leaving your child in the car with some fish and chips while you play the pokies for ten hours? I am in no way defending the actions of women who neglect, abuse or otherwise harm their children and I agree that when women harm their children it is truly an awful, terrible and despicable thing. But I don't think this study gives enough details to conclusively determine that because of their gender, women pose a bigger risk to children than men, especially when - as other posters have repeatedly pointed out - women spend far more time with children than men. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Perceptioncheck wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
| ...it is men who overwhelmingly commit abuse of a sexual or violent nature. While the other kinds of abuse are not to be sniffed at, violence and sexual abuse are the types of abuse I most fear as a parent. Therefore, to minimise risk, if given a choice of gender and all other things being equal, I would choose the woman |
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| At no time did I say that all men abuse kids. |
I never said you said "all men abuse kids." I said you suspect men of sex abuse which is clear from what you wrote above. Use that dictionary you keep talking about to see that "suspect" does NOT mean "everybody definitely."
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Er, actually the part about how it's men who overwhelmingly commit abuse of a sexual or violent nature is taken out of context. In fact, she was quoting YOUR article, which you used to assert that women are the perpetrators in 60% of abuse cases.
Do you even read the links that you post? |
I am perfectly aware of what the article I posted states. You should try reading it again, especially the part where it says
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| 60% of perpetrators are FEMALE. |
Paraphasic responses can be indicative of psychosis. Did you have a point, or do you normally just ramble on incoherently? |
You are wasting your time trying to talk sense to this guy, PC. It would be more productive to argue with a wall.
We've already discussed the 60% figure, and given him a couple of lessons on maths and statistics, but it does seem a bit beyond what he's able to grasp. |
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Perceptioncheck
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^ I know. Some days I just feel like banging my head against a brick wall. It helps pass the time. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| yawarakaijin wrote: |
| Wow. You are either the best troll ever or in need of some serious help. You are so fucked up you can't even grasp why that link was removed. |
Well I just read the link. Delightful reading. Who is the author? Someone who didn't have much success with the ladies, I imagine.
Kind of reminded me of this crazy classic: http://www.womynkind.org/scum.htm
| yawarakaijin wrote: |
| Seriously man, link me to the thread where you lay out just what happened to you in order to begin to think in such a way. I'm curious, from a crimina...I mean clinical pyschology point of view. |
Seconded. |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Let me clear up this side-debate for everyone. On page four, Big Bird wrote this:
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Therefore, to minimise risk, if given a choice of gender and all other things being equal, I would choose the woman, as she is statistically far less likely to rape or perpetrate violence against my boys. Most male parents I know, who live in what yawarakaijin refers to as 'the real world' think along the same lines as I do.
For the record, I too would like some male role models at my children's daycare centre. But men rarely undertake this work for two reasons. 1) They are conscious that many people will suspect their motives for being with children. That is sad and unfortunate. 2) It is a low status job with unattractive pay, as 'women's work' often is. |
Her style is flabby, and in several places she attempts to confuse the issue, but Bacaspar's response is dead on:
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| Don't you see the self-fulfilling prophecy in which you are engaging here? First you suspect men of being sex abusers, and then lament the fact that they don't take childcare jobs because people suspect them of being sex abusers! |
So you can all stop the "I never said what you said I said" stuff.
Also, I don't see any major faults with the studies Cornfed has posted. You asked for studies, and he has given three or four. Yet you quibble and ask for more, then gossip about his personal history. Where are your studies? In this thread he's proving to be the more lucid debater. That's why I say he's winning. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Perceptioncheck wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
I am perfectly aware of what the article I posted states. You should try reading it again, especially the part where it says
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| 60% of perpetrators are FEMALE. |
Paraphasic responses can be indicative of psychosis. Did you have a point, or do you normally just ramble on incoherently? |
LOL. Resorting to name calling, huh? Can't think of anything better to say, huh?
Perhaps you should read my post about that link again bacasper. . .or should I call you Cornfed?!!
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| If you'll look at the study that BB quoted, it does explicitly state that abuse of a violent and/or sexual nature is overwhelmingly committed by males. |
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You can keep reposting quotes from my link, but of you are unable to formulate a point from it, don't bother.
I defy you to show where I have called you a name, deserved as much as it would be.
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Cornfed too, unless of course cornfed is actually as sick as his online persona appears...then who knows how his twisted mind would work.
...you lost sight of sanity in the rear view mirror a long time ago. I would certainly never allow my young sons to spend more than a second in the presence of someone so bitter and twisted as yourself.
Sharkey (or is it jinju?) - you don't need me to make you sound incompetent and ignorant.
He is indeed 'as 'thick as a brick.' In England it's a standard way of saying someone is stupid.
Today's English lesson, for bcasper's benefit.
That just shows you can only deal with debate if it is simplified to kindegarnten level.
cornfed's arguments, which are puerile
Our resident misogynist cornfed
You are clearly too dim for this forum. Go away pesky fly. And take the silly Sharkey with you.
Just you being unable to properly digest what you read.
Start thinking like a grown up.
I know you live in a much simpler world than me, but I'm here living in the real world, which is a lot more complex than the one you seem to inhabit.
cornfed's nonsense
Perhaps that's too difficult a concept for you
The best description of him that I ever read here was this: There's misogyny and then there is crossing the line to serious mental health issues.
Cornfed is most likely one of two things. Either he is a mischeivous one trick pony troll who has found that stirring up 'the womens' is the most effective way of getting the attention he dearly craves, or he is a depraved little nobody who reads and rereads the exploits of Ted Bundy and Jack the Ripper, enjoying every gruesome detail of his heros' handiwork.
Er....really? Winning the race to the madhouse, or winning the award for 'Dave's most dedicated troll'?
Is he a troll, or is he seriously teetering on the edge of sanity? Either way, I tend to ignore his silly buggery.
His mum/sister/wife abused him? The pretty girls wouldn't give him the time of day? He met a woman as thoroughly unpleasant as himself?
You are wasting your time trying to talk sense to this guy, PC. It would be more productive to argue with a wall.
We've already discussed the 60% figure, and given him a couple of lessons on maths and statistics, but it does seem a bit beyond what he's able to grasp. |
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you need to see a therapist.
^^ ah, but that's far too logical for our resident woman-hater. He won't like that at all. |
So who's doing the name-calling? Should I call you BigBird?!! |
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Cornfed
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, I don't see any major faults with the studies Cornfed has posted. You asked for studies, and he has given three or four. Yet you quibble and ask for more, then gossip about his personal history. Where are your studies? |
Yes, the Western women posting in this thread appear to be vacuous and hateful scum with nothing to contribute but their odious dead-weight presence, much like essentially all Western women in all aspects of life. |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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edit, dp
Last edited by Koveras on Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:41 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Big Bird wrote: |
Cornfed too, unless of course cornfed is actually as sick as his online persona appears...then who knows how his twisted mind would work.
...you lost sight of sanity in the rear view mirror a long time ago. I would certainly never allow my young sons to spend more than a second in the presence of someone so bitter and twisted as yourself.
Sharkey (or is it jinju?) - you don't need me to make you sound incompetent and ignorant.
He is indeed 'as 'thick as a brick.' In England it's a standard way of saying someone is stupid.
Today's English lesson, for bcasper's benefit.
That just shows you can only deal with debate if it is simplified to kindegarnten level.
cornfed's arguments, which are puerile
Our resident misogynist cornfed
You are clearly too dim for this forum. Go away pesky fly. And take the silly Sharkey with you.
Just you being unable to properly digest what you read.
Start thinking like a grown up.
I know you live in a much simpler world than me, but I'm here living in the real world, which is a lot more complex than the one you seem to inhabit.
cornfed's nonsense
Perhaps that's too difficult a concept for you
The best description of him that I ever read here was this: There's misogyny and then there is crossing the line to serious mental health issues.
Cornfed is most likely one of two things. Either he is a mischeivous one trick pony troll who has found that stirring up 'the womens' is the most effective way of getting the attention he dearly craves, or he is a depraved little nobody who reads and rereads the exploits of Ted Bundy and Jack the Ripper, enjoying every gruesome detail of his heros' handiwork.
Er....really? Winning the race to the madhouse, or winning the award for 'Dave's most dedicated troll'?
Is he a troll, or is he seriously teetering on the edge of sanity? Either way, I tend to ignore his silly buggery.
His mum/sister/wife abused him? The pretty girls wouldn't give him the time of day? He met a woman as thoroughly unpleasant as himself?
You are wasting your time trying to talk sense to this guy, PC. It would be more productive to argue with a wall.
We've already discussed the 60% figure, and given him a couple of lessons on maths and statistics, but it does seem a bit beyond what he's able to grasp. |
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Wow, when you gather it all together like that, Cornfed's point seems even stronger. Hard to believe that's just one person on one thread. |
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Perceptioncheck
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Cornfed wrote: |
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| Also, I don't see any major faults with the studies Cornfed has posted. You asked for studies, and he has given three or four. Yet you quibble and ask for more, then gossip about his personal history. Where are your studies? |
Yes, the Western women posting in this thread appear to be vacuous and hateful scum with nothing to contribute but their odious dead-weight presence, much like essentially all Western women in all aspects of life. |
Does this count as name calling, bacasper?
Look, I've said it before and I'll say it again; I'm not a femenazi man-hater.
Objecting to being called "vacuous and hateful scum" by an established misogynist doesn't make me a femanazi man-hater either.
(and I think BB was just trying to match the comedic tone of the male posters on this thread).
I have simply asked for evidence to prove that women pose a bigger risk to children because of their gender. You have yet to provide anything close to proof and every one of your links/articles/statistics is either subjective or has clear flaws. I'm not going to go over each and everyone of those flaws for the third time. I assume you are at least capable of re-reading this thread if you don't understand. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:44 am Post subject: |
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| Perceptioncheck wrote: |
| Cornfed wrote: |
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| Also, I don't see any major faults with the studies Cornfed has posted. You asked for studies, and he has given three or four. Yet you quibble and ask for more, then gossip about his personal history. Where are your studies? |
Yes, the Western women posting in this thread appear to be vacuous and hateful scum with nothing to contribute but their odious dead-weight presence, much like essentially all Western women in all aspects of life. |
Does this count as name calling, bacasper?
Look, I've said it before and I'll say it again; I'm not a femenazi man-hater.
Objecting to being called "vacuous and hateful scum" by an established misogynist doesn't make me a femanazi man-hater either.
(and I think BB was just trying to match the comedic tone of the male posters on this thread).
I have simply asked for evidence to prove that women pose a bigger risk to children because of their gender. You have yet to provide anything close to proof and every one of your links/articles/statistics is either subjective or has clear flaws. I'm not going to go over each and everyone of those flaws for the third time. I assume you are at least capable of re-reading this thread if you don't understand. |
While he attentuated it with the words "appear to be," I suppose it does approach invective. Cornfed, don't descend to their level.
PC, you have been a Janey-come-lately on this thread asking for something from studies posted before your arrival. I prefer not to speculate about causes as you request.
I prefer to stick to what is known, i.e. most incidents of child abuse are committed by women. Spin, justify, excuse, or explain it any way you want, but the fact remains.
You have rejected out of hand studies finding flaws in them that you would have us believe got by the scholars, academics, and university departments who performed them. |
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Enrico Palazzo
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Joined: 11 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: |
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It's sad that Cornfed has found a way to take such great pleasure from the horrific murder and sickening torture of a poor innocent child. It's also not very surprising, being acquainted with his sorry posts on this website.
I wish I had not read that awful story. 
As a non-murdering mother, I know only too well that my babies are in far more danger from his sex than mine. Take an unstable mother out of the picture, and it's Cornfed's sex that are far more likely to try and rape or murder small children. |
i dont think pleasure was in the murder but rather the fact that this ungrateful fkn stain of a woman is in prison for life with a min of 17years before parole comes up.
This is a case where death should be imposed. You cant tell me that woman deserves to live!
bout time the justice system in NZ hands out some decent penalties. |
No, I don't believe that. Knowing cornfed, he got absolutely rock hard when he read it. |
ahem |
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