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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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 Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: Suprising things Korean students don't know |
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In the past 2 days, I've been suprised by two different things that my second grade HS students don't know. Yesterday, my students asked me about the phases of the moon and how they happened. They couldn't understand it from the book. They also didn't know that the earth rotates and the sun doesn't (I know it does, but it was too complicated to explain. )
Today, I gave the girls about 10 minutes of free time at the end of class. I watched one student put salve/lotion/lipbalm (not sure...came in a tube) in her nostrils directly from the tube. Then she passed the tube to her friend who put it on her lips!!!! I went over and said "Don't do that!!" And explained why. They had no idea!!
Anyone else suprised at what their KS don't know for their age? |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Suprising things Korean students don't know |
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| ajuma wrote: |
Anyone else suprised at what their KS don't know for their age? |
Well, I think some of the science stuff isn't so surprising, but the knowledge of the general public about germs and diseases is piss-poor at best. Sharing food, sharing makeup, sharing lip balm, rarely washing hands, touching their eyes with dirty hands, etc, etc. It doesn't get better as they get older, either. |
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mnhnhyouh
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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I had the impression that high school students didnt know that much world geography. So for a lesson I put together a powerpoint thingy that tested them on geography knowledge by showing them a chunk of a world map, with country borders only, but with one country coloured in. They had to tell me the name of the coloured in country.
Lots of easy ones, and they got all of them. Most classes were also able to get Syria, Iran, Iraq, and Camaroon, though some classes needed a clue or two for the latter.
Things they dont seem to know:
Anything about Australia except kangaroos, Sydney Opera house and mnhnhyouh teacher.
That some of their loan words are German, like Hof, and Arabit (sp?)
That mnhnhyouh teacher was a marine biologist back in the day.
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| mnhnhyouh wrote: |
That some of their loan words are German, like Hof, and Arabit (sp?)
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I did a Konglish lesson last week. It went swimmingly.
Arbeit means "part time job" in Korean. I think it means "to work" (arbiter) in German. I have no idea why they stole that word. |
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mnhnhyouh
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
I did a Konglish lesson last week. It went swimmingly.
Arbeit means "part time job" in Korean. I think it means "to work" (arbiter) in German. I have no idea why they stole that word. |
I did that lesson as well, and it is a great lesson.
By why choose hof, it cant be said correctly in Korean!!!
Bar, on the other hand is pretty easy to write in Hangal.
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DomoDomo
Joined: 17 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone know if 많이 (many) is a loan word, or just coincidence? |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
| mnhnhyouh wrote: |
That some of their loan words are German, like Hof, and Arabit (sp?)
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I did a Konglish lesson last week. It went swimmingly.
Arbeit means "part time job" in Korean. I think it means "to work" (arbiter) in German. I have no idea why they stole that word. |
teach them
ARBEIT MACHT FREI
"work will set you free"
a lovely slogan as you entered Auschwitz
http://signofjonah.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/auschwitz.jpg
one of my first grade girls had a big map of Africa the other day, and they had to memorize all the countries and capitals |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| DomoDomo wrote: |
| Anyone know if 많이 (many) is a loan word, or just coincidence? |
Yeah, I pegged some Koreans with this and they claim it's nothing more than a coincidence.
It's pronounced more like "man-hi" than "many", a difference which is difficult to hear in spoken Korean. Regardless, I've railed a number of people on this and they've all claimed that the word was as old as the hills, existing in Korea long before the likes of our long-nosed brethren. |
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Bigfeet
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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I was surprised to learn that Koreans count their age starting at conception. I asked a Korean if this was true. He didn't know and he's a 25-years-old Korean history teacher!  |
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Seoul'n'Corea
Joined: 06 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: things students don't know |
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Grade 1s have very little knowledge of the outside world and are basic in responses.
white person = wonomin, not teacher.
-- students, even after being told that I am NOT from USA, they refer to me as Miguksaram.
I have to say -- No, I am from Canada.
It is usually the same kids, who are saying this too. |
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samcheokguy
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| the german words come by way of Japan usually. |
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Donald Frost
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:32 am Post subject: |
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| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
| DomoDomo wrote: |
| Anyone know if 많이 (many) is a loan word, or just coincidence? |
Yeah, I pegged some Koreans with this and they claim it's nothing more than a coincidence.
It's pronounced more like "man-hi" than "many", a difference which is difficult to hear in spoken Korean. Regardless, I've railed a number of people on this and they've all claimed that the word was as old as the hills, existing in Korea long before the likes of our long-nosed brethren. |
Thanks for the info.
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pkang0202
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:57 am Post subject: |
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| I looked at the Elementary science book. They teach the kids this stuff. Maybe the students just don't think its worth studying. |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| Bigfeet wrote: |
| I was surprised to learn that Koreans count their age starting at conception. I asked a Korean if this was true. He didn't know and he's a 25-years-old Korean history teacher! |
if it were ONLY that easy or logical
(which it isn't.. it's twisted logic, unless you're a life begins at conception religious fanatic)
but there's another twist to Korean age..
something to do with if you're born in December, in which case you add TWO years to your Western age.
I haven't even attempted to figure out how this works because it sounds so patently ridiculous. |
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shantaram
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
| mnhnhyouh wrote: |
That some of their loan words are German, like Hof, and Arabit (sp?)
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I did a Konglish lesson last week. It went swimmingly.
Arbeit means "part time job" in Korean. I think it means "to work" (arbiter) in German. I have no idea why they stole that word. |
Arubeitu came to Korean via Japanese, the Japanese made it a loan-word from German. (According to Bruce Cumings.) |
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