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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:54 am    Post subject: two random questions Reply with quote

1. One of the older teachers I teach English to brought me in a big bag of kimchi today. Should I get her a thank you gift or just write her a note? If I were to get her a gift, I was thinking some sort of book to help her learn English because she really tries hard and tells me she studies every day. Her level is intermediate; can anyone suggest a particular learning guide or supplementary book?

2. I have such a hard time pronouncing the character: ㅡ . Every time I try it sounds like "uh": ㅓ . I know 은 should sound like "eun", but I can't pronounce it that way. How should my tongue be placed when I am pronouncing that sound?

Thanks!
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tashi



Joined: 04 Nov 2008
Location: Land of morning soju men

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Molly,

It's the same at my work... I reciprocated by making Bruschetta for one lady and bought some good chocolate for another. Both seemed to appease... the koreans who got some kimchi reciprocated by bringing some of that orange jelly tea, so I vote for bringing food.

***Although the book idea is very thoughtful, too. Very Happy
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for 은 get your mouth as horizontal as possible, and make a "ugh" sound like you just saw something gross. but dont' purse your lips and don't say 'ugh' say 'uhn'

Between an unstressed "uh" (as in 'sun') and a short i (as in 'swim')

maybe
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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
for 은 get your mouth as horizontal as possible, and make a "ugh" sound like you just saw something gross. but dont' purse your lips and don't say 'ugh' say 'uhn'

Between an unstressed "uh" (as in 'sun') and a short i (as in 'swim')

maybe


Good tip. I'll practice.
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Mint



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my "eun"s and "leul"s down by putting my teeth together and 'pushing' the o sound forward. I hope that helps...
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Re: two random questions Reply with quote

MollyBloom wrote:

2. I have such a hard time pronouncing the character: ㅡ . Every time I try it sounds like "uh": ㅓ . I know 은 should sound like "eun", but I can't pronounce it that way. How should my tongue be placed when I am pronouncing that sound?


Think of words like book and good. The double-o words that are differentiated from other double-o words like fool and moon.
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man_of_words



Joined: 18 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: sound Reply with quote

there's some good advice above for the 으 sound but I think the best analogy for the 어 is closer to the vowel sound in the word "on" that's what I always hear them doing and when I use it I get winning results!
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