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Yu_Bum_suk
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| I can't see it quite being the same. I suspect they're going to have to go after a lot more world leaders. |
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coffeeNOW
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:35 am Post subject: |
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| I have to admit the Election special was kind of lame, but he came back the next day with a stellar show. As far as the serious stuff, check out the hits on the Youtube Crossfire video to see how many people agree with you. I thought it was one of the best TV moments of the year, at least. Hell, I'd even say that show was the start of Tucker Carlson's downfall. |
Yeah, it's because Jon Stewart is more about really good delivery than improvisation. He's amazing when he has something to work with, kind of dull otherwise. Kind of like the opposite of Conan. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| The Daily Show will continue to be great. If you never liked it before (Kuros), you probably will think it will suck in the future too. |
This is what I said:
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| I'd have to say the funny is already on life-support. |
Maybe that's unclear. I believe the Daily Show is funny, until very recently. |
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khyber
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| The Nov 6 show was great! And luckily it's SO easy to get the shows online. |
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bangbayed
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Actually this is what you said:
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| If I have to judge from their live election episode, I'd have to say the funny is already on life-support. Jon Stewart, despite his pretentions to the contrary, is extremely partisan. I don't think he can really lay into Barack like he did the Bush administration. That's right, I don't think that much of Jon Stewart. I've seen him do serious, and he's crap at it. |
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| If you never liked it before... |
A small bit of assumption on my part, but I think you can see why.
Again, I think it's a little premature to make a call about its demise. Some of its best material were not jabs at Bush at all. That's way too easy. Go to the archives on the Daily Show website and look for the Even Stephven series or skits by Rob Corddry, Mo Rocca, Nancy Walls...They've been doing for over 10 years what Ali G couldn't even do for more than 2 seasons. |
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mithridates
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: |
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liberals are well capable of making fun of themselves
just last night Jon Stewart made several well-received jokes about Obamamania
... the show will continue, stronger than ever, because the anger will be out of the humour |
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jkelly80
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:00 am Post subject: |
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| More than Bush or conservatism, the Daily Show's main target is the mainstream media, and its overinflated sense of self-importance. Luckily for them, they'll never run of material, at least not in the immediate future. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:59 am Post subject: Re: Can the Daily Show survive an Obama Administration? |
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Is the Daily Show dead?
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| ...in one eventful day, the prototypical Daily Show viewer has been transformed: Once disaffected and angry at Washington�s power structure, he�s now delighted and hopeful about the new president and all that he symbolizes. And if you�re an Obama fan � eager to give Barack the benefit of the doubt, and proud and excited about the change you�ve helped bring the nation � do you really want Jon Stewart sitting on the sidelines, taking potshots at your hero? |
If I have to judge from their live election episode, I'd have to say the funny is already on life-support. Jon Stewart, despite his pretentions to the contrary, is extremely partisan. I don't think he can really lay into Barack like he did the Bush administration. That's right, I don't think that much of Jon Stewart. I've seen him do serious, and he's crap at it. |
He is screwed, blued and tattoed! Jon is going to go the way of Dana Carvey.
For you youngsters who don't know Dana, here you go http://www.metacafe.com/watch/400999/dana_carvey_as_bush/ |
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tigercat
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| The Colbert Report will thrive! |
I love your avatar!!! |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| VanIslander wrote: |
liberals are well capable of making fun of themselves
just last night Jon Stewart made several well-received jokes about Obamamania
... the show will continue, stronger than ever, because the anger will be out of the humour |
This seems right. There was definitely anger in the humor.
Here's a fun Culture11 piece about Stewart (and some other comundit).
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| Both Bill Maher and Jon Stewart peddle cynicism disguised as honest truth-telling. Both men try to convince the viewer that their general distrust, combined with their penchant for mocking politicians, makes them ipso facto wise. And both men do all this while pushing their own, preferred political agendas. |
The article is a tad too resentful, and resentment is never compelling, but I think its right that Stewart professes that his role is as jester all too well when he's doing more than merely jesting. |
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ManintheMiddle
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting topic for a thread, OP.
I concur with your assessment of Stewart, whose comic talents are also limited in my view.
I also think he'll be gagged because the PC crowd will frown on any criticism of Obama that even remotely smacks of racism to them. Plus Jon won't want to be seen as being "uncool," as if Blacks are the only ones who define that term anyway. |
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bangbayed
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| ManintheMiddle wrote: |
Interesting topic for a thread, OP.
I concur with your assessment of Stewart, whose comic talents are also limited in my view.
I also think he'll be gagged because the PC crowd will frown on any criticism of Obama that even remotely smacks of racism to them. Plus Jon won't want to be seen as being "uncool," as if Blacks are the only ones who define that term anyway. |
Hmmm where did that come from? Sounds like someone's got issues. Not being "PC" - as you call it- but I'm not sure why criticism of Obama has to be about his race. |
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