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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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catman
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Um they can't reach North America.
This is about first strike capabilities in a possible war with Russia. |
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Kuros
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| catman wrote: |
Um they can't reach North America.
This is about first strike capabilities in a possible war with Russia. |
Incorrect.
Russian ICBMs would go over the North Pole. Hell, as I said a few posts ago, Russian SLBMs could pop up 250 miles off the Eastern Seaboard.
Russia's objection to the missile placement isn't about missile defense at all. Its about the growing military co-operation between former Soviet client-states and the US. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
Um they can't reach North America.
This is about first strike capabilities in a possible war with Russia. |
By the time Iran has the capability it would be kind of late. It takes a while to get missile defense the way the US would like it. This is the kind of system the requires a lot of time to get ready. .There is a good chance that the US will be ready when Iran does have the capabilty. |
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nosmallplans
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i remember doing a comedic dialogue on this subject in high school. wish i could find the script but basically involves an american politician speaking to his russian counterpart:
"well i'll have you know we're developing an anti-missile missile."
"that's a shame as we've already got an anti-anti-missile missile missile." |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| Russia's objection to the missile placement isn't about missile defense at all. Its about the growing military co-operation between former Soviet client-states and the US. |
Yes, specifically, NATO's expansion. This debate has occurred since the Clinton Administration. |
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sharkey
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any modern country with nukes can destroy each other in a heart beat. they have censors and radars that tell when nukes are flying their way, and as oon as they see the nukes coming, they launch their own. no one will survive, a missile shield cant defend against hundreds of nukes lauchned from subs, silos, ships, planes etc etc etc get serious.. missile shields are useless right now and only can engage one nuke at a time and more times then not, they fail miserably. It is only huge PR stunts like this when they finally are successful.
chill out everyone, if people wanted others to die, it would have happened by now. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Missile defense can be part of keeping Iran from gaining the strategic benefits of nuclear weapons. |
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sharkey
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Missile defense can be part of keeping Iran from gaining the strategic benefits of nuclear weapons. |
the risk of missile defense not working is too great. the irealis wont rely on it, like i said, if Iran wants to nuke israel it will, but dont forget, israel has nukes as well |
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sharkey
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| and think once Iran developed its nuke it would go about screaming we're going to nuke israel is a complete farce. Iran is a responsible and has a stable government and once oyu join the nuclear club you get to use the nuke like a piece of shit on a stick and point it at your bullies. ie) NK. Why would they bust nukes so early, they need to get usa outta the middle east first |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| sharkey wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Missile defense can be part of keeping Iran from gaining the strategic benefits of nuclear weapons. |
the risk of missile defense not working is too great. the irealis wont rely on it, like i said, if Iran wants to nuke israel it will, but dont forget, israel has nukes as well |
would make it alot harder for Iran to engage in power projection.
Besides missile defense has a lot better chance of working against Iran than Russia.
but missile defense is just one part of the equation.
This is something else that the US needs.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/12/INGS6HID5A1.DTL |
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