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[EzeWong]

Although, there is nothing wrong with manual labor and trying to spur jobs for blue collared workers I find this "fix" lackluser, given the economic recession we are in.

First off, like the big dig, this could end up like an economic sink hole. Living in Boston myself, most people could tell you the big dig costed WAY more than it should have. Not to mention that poor woman who died because of it (faulty ceiling). Contractors walking away with millions in their pocket for a project that barely perpectuated even more economic growth. I don't even want to talk about all the money scandals around it either.

If we want to create long lasting jobs that reinforce the backbone of American economy, highways and roads aren't the way to do it. What is this Sim City? (Remember how if you don't tax like 15% of roads they break down and the guy gets super pissed going "DIDN'T I WARN YOU!! hated that guy, what a jackoff.)

If we want to maintain a competive economic position globally we need to invest into projects that create a long lasting competive advantage that America has over other countries. This will increase our exports and globally raise economic standards. Basically, pulling up the economy by creating products that are demanded.

Construction is a short term fix for jobs and it is really a supply side pull. We are literally creating jobs out of thin air. This is dangerous in many ways and not to mention is only an internal for only America. That money coudl be put to better use in areas that would cycle itself into our economy as well as others. That's how economy works. By merely creating jobs without "good" products the money doesn't circulate.

Tons of construction workers are employed. Work their ass off, make a bridge. Wonderful. But the bridge itself isn't improving the economic situation for other people. And the people who earn wages from the bridge... Unless they IMMEDIATELY insert that back into the economy we can see improvement. But that's definately not the case. The point of the construction work is to employ as many people as possible, threfore giving them all relatively a spread out pay scale. People who earn the money will therfore NOT be inclined to spend rather would horde the money. This effect is just increasing the already stangnant economy and creating an even worse drudge.

A TRUE good effective economic plan essentially allocates money to appropriate places where it's needed. So for example, in times of recession to improve the standard of living we need to make products that are demanded by everyone... Common goods. Food, toothpaste, tissues, etc... stuff we need everyday. Once these goods become cheap again, the economy should reshift it's focus (by individual players, ie. businesses) into more luxury goods and continually step up and up and up. That's ideally how any economy should build itself on.


Not to mention those who are specialized workers refuse and would rather not work in blue collared jobs. They aren't being yuppies. They are proetecting their craft. If I worked as a technical field analyst for Nasa, I'm not picking up a manual labor job because on a resume that's like admitting you weren't demanded enough to find a job in your craft. No one wants to admit it to themself that kind of reality.

[Tiger Beer]

ONE THING to note...this plan isn't to just 'stimulate' the economy. It is something that is also NECESSARY. It HAS to be done. It simply isn't a way to just put people to work on meaningless tasks (much like the financial debacle of the War in Iraq which was suppose to be 'good for the economy') OR the encouragement/prodding of Americans to BUY overinflated priced housing (with low rate incentives encouraged/supported by the administration).

Unlike a big military spending spree (or a false housing market to stimulate the economy), this one ACTUALLY is NEEDED domestically and has real tangible benefits that will be seen and felt. We actually DO NEED fuel-efficient buildings, repaired infrastructure (Minneapolis bridge that fell down is one of MULTITUDES that needed repairs), etc.

Rather than just pumping money into military technology and making the coolest explosions as possible and benefiting the war-related industries, this plan actually funnels that money into FUEL-EFFICIENCY, EDUCATION, and INFRASTRUCTURE.

It isn't just a random 'war is good for the economy' aka George Bush style, but this plan is actually NEEDED and we'll actually SEE benefits from it first-hand in our OWN country.

[pkang0202]

I noticed one of the improvements is upgrading the Internet.

Lets say Obama gives lots of government money to telecoms to make our internet faster.

Do you honestly think Comcast, Verizon, or any other high speed carrier is going to LOWER their prices?

That is really what consumers need. Lower utility bills, lower taxes, MORE money in their hands to purchase.

Lets say Obama upgrades highways and bridges. Those won't be free. I bet you the states are going to put up toll booths to help generate revenue til fill their own coffers.

Make schools and public buildings go green. Just how will that benefit the American people? Public buildings are free, and public education basically free (a small charge each year). Going green is going to put more money into Americans pockets how?

Anyone who studies Economics should know that the economy's fuel is spending. When people stop spending money, the economy grinds to a halt.

[nosmallplans]

people who ride bikes to work also get an extra $20 from the government every month.

boy am i excited to get paid for having fun to and from work.

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[Jandar]

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[Kuros]

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[samcheokguy]

It is more effective to give people jobs than money, even if their work is not useful, like the CCC and TVA projects. The idea is that work-welfare is better all around. Simply put, Obama and the Feds figure paying out salaries and getting something in return, public works, is more effective than throwign money out of a helicopter.