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Teacher in coma because of fire started by drunken man
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to put the onus (a financial one at that) on us, rather than building owners to follow building code, fire safety code, etc.

I thought this kind of advertising was illegal on this site.
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Traveller



Joined: 20 May 2007
Location: Chungnam

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
Nice to put the onus (a financial one at that) on us, rather than building owners to follow building code, fire safety code, etc.

I thought this kind of advertising was illegal on this site.


Here we go again...
The onus has not been placed on anyone. If you want to contribute, you can, if not, that's up to you.
There is no current option for insurance for foreigners in Korea, so if you see this info, which could save a persons life, as illegal advertising, then honestly I'm not even going to comment.

Most people don't know that Korean national insurance DOES NOT cover everything. If you land in ICU, or need tests, it's at your cost, unless you have some form of travel insurance.
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IlIlNine



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traveller wrote:
Ilsanman wrote:
Nice to put the onus (a financial one at that) on us, rather than building owners to follow building code, fire safety code, etc.

I thought this kind of advertising was illegal on this site.


Here we go again...
The onus has not been placed on anyone. If you want to contribute, you can, if not, that's up to you.
There is no current option for insurance for foreigners in Korea, so if you see this info, which could save a persons life, as illegal advertising, then honestly I'm not even going to comment.

Most people don't know that Korean national insurance DOES NOT cover everything. If you land in ICU, or need tests, it's at your cost, unless you have some form of travel insurance.


That's just not true. You can get supplemental insurance from many places that's complimentary to the national insurance plan and covers all of the other strange and wacky ways that you can get injured. I use ING and my monthly bill is something like 35,000 and covers a satisfying amount of stuff.

If anyone's interested, I can put you in touch with a *fantastic* english speaking rep. (but PM me for questions/details, this isn't the right place)
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Traveller



Joined: 20 May 2007
Location: Chungnam

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great to know! thank you for the positive contribution. I had no idea! I'll PM you for more info during the week.
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marckot



Joined: 16 Jan 2007
Location: Mokpo

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nerine died Sunday morning at 11am (korean time) or like reported in other messages 4am (South African time).

Her heart stopped and the doctors could not start it again. Her heart was very weak due to the stress put on it over the last two weeks and the two previous heart failures.

I spent most of the day yesterday with the family at the funeral home, where we had a small service. There will be another final service Tuesday morning in Mokpo. I'm sorry but as I'm typing this I can't confirm a time yet. I will post a time as soon as I know.
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
As I was reading, it sounded like she didn't make it, but I am glad to read that she still has a chance. She deserves to live.


If she doesn't make it, I hope the guy gets wrung up on murder charges.


November 2007, my apartment building had a fired becasue of faulty wiring-fortunately I wasn't there at the time [1230am] as I was at a buddy's birthday party. I walked home to a building with no lights at all. Fortunately, the building has lots of whatever you call the things in the hall ceilings that shoot out water, and as the fire was not in an apartment, it didn't spread.

I too would like to see murder charges, but I doubt that will happen. Look at that shipping accident.


Condolences to the family.
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Traveller



Joined: 20 May 2007
Location: Chungnam

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Received on the facebook group:

I would just like to thank all the group members for the donations, we are going to put it good use and really needed it. The total amount that were given is 800 000won. This will cover the expenses. The rest of the money will be put in a fund for future use as a Foreigner Accident Fund. The details of the fund will be given as soon as we created it. I also what to thank all the members for praying, we really apreciate it! From the bottom of our hearts, as a family, we want to thank you for the support and encouragement! I know that, even as we don't understand God's will we know that He knows the best!

Much Love
The Viljoen Family
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Lukychrm42



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Cheonan

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traveller, I think the "onus" to which the poster was referring was the insurance salesman's tactful interjection... since the government or whoever apparently does nothing to promote prevention of these horrible situations, like requiring smoke detectors, fire alarms, etc. (not the fund for Nerine!)

Thank you for posting about the situation, and I,too, would like to extend condolences to her family and friends.

I have also been looking for a smoke detector since I don't have one. I've been to Emart and Homeplus and neither one carries them. I've also realized that I've been here 3.5 months and we've never had a fire drill at the hagwon. I don't know about you, but mine is a tall, skinny building and I've never been advised of any evacuation plan, fire escapes, etc... I know in the US and UK we take fire alarms in our dorms/colleges at 3 am for granted, but it makes me sad that such things aren't institutional here.

Anyway, I don't want to hijack the post, but thanks for your info.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
Nice to put the onus (a financial one at that) on us, rather than building owners to follow building code, fire safety code, etc.

I thought this kind of advertising was illegal on this site.


Agreed. Someone is using the facebook group member list to sell private insurance to everyone, and they should wait until after the funeral.
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beast



Joined: 28 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone is keeping tabs, I think that is the third foreign English teacher this year to have a fire/arson related death/injury. I'm kind of checking where the fire extinguishers are these days. Kind of making a mental note in my head of where they all are.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He'll get a suspended sentence and get sent home with a pack of smokes in his front pocket.

Korea Sparkling.

crusher_of_heads wrote:
Ilsanman wrote:
As I was reading, it sounded like she didn't make it, but I am glad to read that she still has a chance. She deserves to live.


If she doesn't make it, I hope the guy gets wrung up on murder charges.


November 2007, my apartment building had a fired becasue of faulty wiring-fortunately I wasn't there at the time [1230am] as I was at a buddy's birthday party. I walked home to a building with no lights at all. Fortunately, the building has lots of whatever you call the things in the hall ceilings that shoot out water, and as the fire was not in an apartment, it didn't spread.

I too would like to see murder charges, but I doubt that will happen. Look at that shipping accident.


Condolences to the family.
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe this happened to a foreign teacher again.
Condolences to her family.

Bring the best smoke detectors money can buy to Korea with you.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nebraska1 wrote:
Yeah isn't that great. How about a place where you can buy a F&*king smoke detector so this kind of thing doesn't happen. It is almost impossible to find one easily.

Costco. They've stocked them for years. Foreign brands, they come cheap, in packs of 2 or 3, with the batteries you need included.
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earthquakez



Joined: 10 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Madoka for posting the link to this thread in a recent thread. I just saw the last poster on this thread was Jongno Guru - damn, he passed after a motorcycle accident a few yrs back, maybe 4?

RIP to Jongno Guru, Nerinne (sorry, I thought her name was Narelle) and Matt Robinson - from what I heard thru their friends and acquaintances they were 3 of the nicest and coolest foreigners to ever live in Korea. Sad
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, kind of stupid they don't sell fire alarms here. My mom bought me a fire and carbon monoxide detector before coming over here. She was worried I wouldn't find one. Boy, was she right about that. So, get a relative to go to Wal Mart and get a good one for you. Save your life.
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