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Journalist hurls shoes at W.
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jkelly80



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the old boy still has some good reflexes. it looks like he's laughing after the first shoe is thrown.
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yawarakaijin



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
If Bush hadn't ducked in time, and if the shoe had hit him with enough impact, we could be facing a MAJOR international incident right now.


No Doubt! I heard about it yesterday but didn't bother checking it out figuring it was a just a light toss and more symbolic than anything but damn! That shoe looked like it had a bit of weight behind it and was moving pretty fast. Accurate too! That guy should join the insurgency! Props to W those were some pretty fast moves. About the first thing one could be proud of of this president Very Happy

I honestly do wonder how it would have played out if that first one had caught him square in the face!
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also kind of reflects short-term memory on Iraqi and/or Arab culture. It was only five years ago that we saw at least a couple of Iraqis beating the Saddam Hussein statue with their shoes, and/or throwing their shoes at it as others took it down.
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IMF crisis



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:


Because the journalist missed, and could argue he missed on purpose, he might be able to argue freedom of expression, that he was somehow demonstrating, doing public protest. Hmmm... would what Iraqi law says about that. American law? gawd the fallout is of more interest to me than anything.

Yeah. Still waiting for the other shoe to drop.
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jkelly80



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMF crisis wrote:
VanIslander wrote:


Because the journalist missed, and could argue he missed on purpose, he might be able to argue freedom of expression, that he was somehow demonstrating, doing public protest. Hmmm... would what Iraqi law says about that. American law? gawd the fallout is of more interest to me than anything.

Yeah. Still waiting for the other shoe to drop.


Still loving the avatar.
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BS.Dos.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
About the first thing one could be proud of of this president


What, for moving, albeit, reflexively?
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a brief report on what some Arabs are saying about the incident:

Iraqi blogger Nibras Kazimi, who was clearly outraged, wrote that he would �seriously consider beating the crap� out of Zaidi, and added that he�d like to �take one of his [Zaidi�s] shoes�and stuff it in his mouth.� The Iraqi government issued a sharp condemnation of the reporter�s �barbaric and shameful behavior.�

...Afghan journalists who attended a press conference Bush gave later at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan were allowed to keep their shoes on. That event proceeded without incident.

Shoe jokes were being exchanged throughout the Arab world via emails and text messages. One said Israeli forces on Monday busted �a secret shoe factory belonging to Hamas in Gaza and arrested several shoe-makers.� It noted that �many of the shoes confiscated were size 10 (EU44)," the same size as the pair used against the US president.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-12-15/arab-blogosphere-erupts-over-shoegate/
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Thwartley wrote:
...the brainless, smirking ape...retarded, half-human freak at a carnival sideshow...


This exceeds mere critique and mockery. It is, rather, dehumanization.

You are overstating the case here. It is only a case of "half-humanization."

And maybe more than half. There is much man can learn from the bonobo ape, one of our closest relatives and among the most peaceful species on the planet.
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
the old boy still has some good reflexes. it looks like he's laughing after the first shoe is thrown.


He still does have pretty good reflex skills. I'll give him that much.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He thought Bush liked shoe-fly pie.
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Hater Depot



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Also kind of reflects short-term memory on Iraqi and/or Arab culture. It was only five years ago that we saw at least a couple of Iraqis beating the Saddam Hussein statue with their shoes, and/or throwing their shoes at it as others took it down.


Anger at the one can co-exist with anger at the other, especially considering the downward slide the nation took in the intervening five years.
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bangbayed



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Thwartley wrote:
...the brainless, smirking ape...retarded, half-human freak at a carnival sideshow...

Brainless yanks...the moron...

Bush: the freak...


Canuckistan and Mindmetoo: this is a nice example of what I mean on the latest S. Palin thread re: leftist demonization and hysteria that incites the mob to take action.

This exceeds mere critique and mockery. It is, rather, dehumanization.


Stating your opinion on 8 years of incompetency is "leftist demonization and hysteria" that "incites the mob to take action"?

Defensive much?
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bangbayed wrote:
Gopher wrote:
Thwartley wrote:
...the brainless, smirking ape...retarded, half-human freak at a carnival sideshow...

Brainless yanks...the moron...

Bush: the freak...


Canuckistan and Mindmetoo: this is a nice example of what I mean on the latest S. Palin thread re: leftist demonization and hysteria that incites the mob to take action.

This exceeds mere critique and mockery. It is, rather, dehumanization.


Stating your opinion on 8 years of incompetency is "leftist demonization and hysteria" that "incites the mob to take action"?

Defensive much?


That's all Mr. Gopher was doing, stating his opinion

Better check your clothing...it looks like someone might have pinned that "Defensive" tag on it.
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canuckistan
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone's throwing their shoes, eggs, tomatoes, pie at a politician.... they must be pissed off.
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Hater Depot



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The shoe-thrower sounds like a somewhat unsavory character.

Quote:
Muntader al-Zaidi appears to have a long-standing dislike of the United States presence in Iraq. He used to finish his reports by saying he was in �the occupied Baghdad.� His brother said that he hates the occupation so strongly that he canceled his wedding, saying: �I will marry when the occupation is over.�

The correspondent for Al Baghdadiya, an independent Iraqi television station, had previously been detained in November 2007 by �a particular party� � his brother didn�t reveal whether American or Iraqi �- after videotaping the scene of an improvised explosive device that targeted an American Humvee. He was held again two months later for several hours by the American army without charges, his brother said. Other reports said he had been kidnapped by Shiite militants. Co-workers said that all Mr. al-Zaidi would reveal afterwards was that he had been strongly threatened, but he would not say by whom.

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Muntader al-Zaidi was the head of the student union under Saddam Hussein... Maythem al-Zaidi said that his brother is politically independent, but several people who know him mentioned that he was a Baathist who turned into a Sadrist after the war.
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