Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Public School Shmublic School...
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
nicam



Joined: 14 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Public School Shmublic School... Reply with quote

Dave's, please help me to not have a nervous breakdown, as there are a shortage of qualified English speaking shrinks here in the sticks of K-land.

Public school. People on this forum rave about it being the best gig. Security, reliability, vacation, no education to money connection, blah blah blah. I got a measley 14 days, which I could have gotten at a hagwon, and my local ed. dep't has not only screwed me into a cockroach infested box without hotwater for 3 1/2 months, but they've lied to us about our camps about 3 times and tried to trick us into giving up our 7 contractual holidays.

Well, I would take a GOOD hagwon over this gig ANY day. I envy my hagwon friends, save for about 2-3 of them who are really getting royally screwed.

Lesson planning for 3 different grades, 40 teenagers in a class who don't speak a lick of English or listen to a word I say. Poor school means NO resources , like working computers, televisions, books, etc. Teaching is futile, I just hope to reach a couple or as many kids as possible, but it's all just mandated by the system and friggin' useless.

Damn Hick towns!I actually live down in the "city" which you could memorize in a day and is backwards and Christian, and you are still a freak everywhere you go.

I am tired of playing "watch and laugh at the waygookin (sp?)". How do you guys deal with this? I just want to blend in sometimes, or be told what everyone is saying or laughing about when I hear my name. It's like being on stage ALL of the time. Am I gonna get some freaky Hollywood OCD type thing? I am tired of being on display. It really is like being a clown or monkey.

And this could just be me, but I do detect that a lot of people at my school
just don't see me as being worthy of respect even though I do everything in my power to be pleasant, resourceful, helpful, etc. Most of them just dont' want to bother with me as it is exhausting to speak English for them. Fair enough.

What else? 7 a.m. wake up call means K-paparazzi at stupid o'clock in the morning. Not home until 5. 35 minute commute. Crap money, although I still think I am making as much as my academy peeps. Looooong hours. Shit commute. Total circus freak. Lies from school and dep't. Exploitation. Unacceptable living conditions. Degradation on the regular. Job a joke. Office politics. No sick days and very little holidays.

Am I in the twilight zone of public schools? What is everybody raving about?I can't think of ONE of my 30 or so local hagwon friends that would trade places with me. So they don't get to seat warm? Seat warming sucks. I'd rather be here for 2 less hours and walk home for 5 minutes,
and have the day pass quickly because i am actually doing something, and not something useless.

Whoa, I am losing it. This is LONG. LOL. Thoughts? Is this the beginning of a trend in public schools?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Public School jobs are definitely NOT the best jobs around. I had one of the better ones and I would never go back to it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Mirabilis85



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amen to this post! I worked at a public middle school last year, and although the faculty and staff were very welcoming and I lived a comfortable 5 min walk from school, the learning environment was a nightmare. 40+ boys per class, little motivation to speak English, loud/wild, just very stressful............I enjoy my hagwon alot more.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at the bright side.

Most PS "assistant" teachers do nothing but follow the useless Korean english curriculum to entertain 40+ students and spend most of the day surfing the Internet.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gazz



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for your situation!

As for stopping you from having a nervous breakdown there is nothing I can do i'm afraid, other than tell you I went skiing with my PS school yesterday for free! Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Public School jobs are definitely NOT the best jobs around. I had one of the better ones and I would never go back to it.


Yes they can definitely be the best jobs around. You DIDN'T have one of the best ones, or you wouldn't say this. I've been in Korea for 5 years and I don't know of a single hogwan job I would trade my public school job for.

OP, I'm sorry you had a bad experience. Nothing is guaranteed in Korea, that's for sure. Feel free to rant about your crappy job, but that doesn't mean your experience is universal. The fact is, a majority of public school jobs ARE MUCH better than a majority of hogwan jobs. The best public school jobs are golden. But those people shouldn't come here and tell everyone that ALL public school jobs are as great as theirs either. You just got caught at one extreme of the scale. And i don't think a public school job is for everyone, by any means.

You sound like 1) you don't belong in a small town, 2) You need a job where you aren't so isolated because you're a bit paranoid about living in the midst of another culture and are probably in a bit of culture shock now, and 3) you would be better suited to a hogwan schedule where you could hang out after work with your 30 friends working in hogwans and sleep late every morning. But don't expect a better vacation at a hogwan, or for a hogwan owner to be true to his word either.

Just a general observation: I find that many of the people on Dave's who complain about their public schools have never worked in a hogwan...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Chamchiman



Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Location: Digging the Grave

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Public School Shmublic School... Reply with quote

nicam wrote:
Public school. People on this forum rave about it being the best gig. Security, reliability, vacation, no education to money connection, blah blah blah. I got a measley 14 days, which I could have gotten at a hagwon, and my local ed. dep't has not only screwed me into a cockroach infested box without hotwater for 3 1/2 months, but they've lied to us about our camps about 3 times and tried to trick us into giving up our 7 contractual holidays...


Damn Hick towns!I actually live down in the "city" which you could memorize in a day and is backwards and Christian, and you are still a freak everywhere you go...


Lies from school and dep't. Exploitation. Unacceptable living conditions. Degradation on the regular. Job a joke. Office politics. No sick days and very little holidays.


Yikes! Which education office do you work for?

(I've often thought that a public school job is right for someone who's been in Korea for a couple of years and sort of knows the ropes. Is that you?)

All I can say is, "Take a deep breath..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
egrog1717



Joined: 12 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From everything I've seen and heard, its really hit or miss with PS jobs...

Case in point, I love my school... Co-teachers, while not the best 100% of the time, are far far far from the worst... My apartment is small, but nice... I have support from the school for anything I need, didn't have a problem setting up my winter camps, had no problem setting up my two weeks of vacation over the winter break, etc etc etc...

So to simply blame the PS system is to forget that there are a lot more crap-wons around then their are bad public jobs... At least here I know they're not going to fire me after 11 months to save on the severance bonus Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reasons why I like my PS:

I can teach anything I want in class

About 70-80% of the students pay attention (not the best, but better than some schools where maybe 3-5 pay attention)

At least 10 weeks of vacation per year.

During midterms and finals, I don't teach the week before the exams and the week of the exams. That equates to two months a year where I'm just sitting at my desk. I use this time to plan lessons, study Korean, or work on any other projects that I have.

Random days off because of field trips, sports days, school festivals, school birthday, etc.

Paid on time every month. There has never been a problem about getting pension, severence, insurance or my return airfare paid for.

Free dinners every couple of months. This year we went out for samgyupsal twice, sushi, and a seafood buffet.



Public schools are really luck of the draw. My first year wasn't that great, but after I put my time in and negotiated a better contract, I don't see why I would leave this job.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
nicam



Joined: 14 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in Geoje, and apparently there w