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egrog1717
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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| Crockpot2001 wrote: |
| Ultimo Hombre wrote: |
I have complaints just like anyone, but come on. Some people on this board act like they expect to be fed grapes and fanned with palm leaves. |
Looks around. You mean you all are NOT being fed grapes and being fanned? |
I had that negociated into my PS contract... Where have you been?   |
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Ultimo Hombre
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
Location: BEER STORE
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| Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Scotticus wrote: |
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I appreciate the effort Hombre, but if your response is aimed at Scottius, I'm afraid he still hasn't been able to put on his big boy pants yet.  |
I agree. It is extremely immature to point out the stupidity of a person complaining about people complaining. |
Ha ha ha.
I give up.
Gripe all you want.
I wish you the best in your unhappiness.
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hugekebab
Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| That's a complement....because Korea could very easily get a reputation for being The Shit-Food Capital of the World. |
I think the UK takes the cake there. I mean really, I don't care for soondae but I'll take it over haggis or black pudding anyday. Yeah, I know curry is more popular there now, but if you want to talk about 'traditional food'...
Also, I think it's kind of silly comparing Korean food to say, Thai food, as some have done here, just because they're both Asian. That's like comparing Mexican food to "Canadian" food. Korea, in case you haven't noticed, has a far colder climate and doesn't support the kind of vegetation that is so easily abundant in countries like Thailand and Malaysia - which has amazing food, I agree. But considering the climate, I think Korean food has done pretty well for itself. I love the bite that sesame leaves have. Maybe a little overused in some dishes, but it's still very uniquely Korean and delicious.
As a matter of fact, you can say in general that cuisines of most countries who have a cold climate are not especially tasty - which can probably be explained by what I mentioned above. Take for example China. Is it just a coincidence that the best food in China comes from the south? You might think of Japan as an exception - but personally the only Japanese food I really crave once in a while is raw fish and ramen noodles - which were originally Chinese anyways (wiki that). |
Traditional British food is fantastic if a little stodgy (not exactly healthy.) In Victorian times the food was awesome (but yes, stodgy) however during the post war era the food quality rapidly declined, and as soon as the convenience era hit that was kind of the killer blow for British grub. These days however there are a lot of food lovers in the UK (cooking shows have to be more popular in the UK than any other country; you can't move for celebrity chefs)
The UK was never on a par with France (big decline in food quality there in recent years) or Italy (still awesome) but I think it had some robust, varied dishes that took into account the crap climate.
I think now it is easy to get pretty good food in the UK and any number of ethnic foods, but we are a Northern European country and therefore do not come close to Italy or Greece etc.
I just noticed that you commented on Korea not doing too badly in view of the climate. There's definitely some truth to that (but I still think it's shit.) |
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esetters21
Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: |
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I eat Korean food sparingly these days. I made some tasty kimchi jigae last night with some of the kimchi that a co-worker gave me. It was delicious going down, but I got reminded in the early morning that Korean food just doesn't always agree with me, if you get my drift (no pun intended).  |
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Dharma_Blue
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| Ultimo Hombre wrote: |
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-Food sucks
-Koreans push too much
-Koreans are rude
-My boss is weird
-My co- teacher is lazy
-The kids don't study hard enough
-Why don't they do it this way? |
So just because you don't personally experience as many problems with Korean food, work culture, etc on a day to day basis as other posters, that makes their opinions less valid than yours? |
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Ultimo Hombre
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: |
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| Man, I've experienced all of these things and more. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| Dharma_Blue wrote: |
| Ultimo Hombre wrote: |
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-Food sucks
-Koreans push too much
-Koreans are rude
-My boss is weird
-My co- teacher is lazy
-The kids don't study hard enough
-Why don't they do it this way? |
So just because you don't personally experience as many problems with Korean food, work culture, etc on a day to day basis as other posters, that makes their opinions less valid than yours? |
Whining about stuff one can change is rather pointless. They can leave or not. If they choose to stay one presumes that the good things about living in Korea outweight the negative stuff. And if the negative stuff outweights the good things, then why stay and be miserable? Go somewhere else and be happy.
Now one can say that complaining is venting...but if someone is venting about the exact same thing they were venting about 2-3 years earlier, chances are they need some professional help. Either change the things they don't like (go somewhere else if that's what it takes) or get over it. Dwelling on the same crap for years on end doesn't help them become balanced happy people...indeed the opposite. |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: |
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What's your excuse UrMy? You are still venting and complaining about the same things year after year. By your logic I think you should leave these boards.
BTW, what's with this defending Dokdo against Japanese invasion crap?
Don't you think you or South Korea have bigger fish to fry like...ummm...North Korea perhaps? |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| esetters21 wrote: |
| I eat Korean food sparingly these days. I made some tasty kimchi jigae last night with some of the kimchi that a co-worker gave me. It was delicious going down, but I got reminded in the early morning that Korean food just doesn't always agree with me, if you get my drift (no pun intended). |
Too bad. I only eat kimchi jigae when I'm sick in an attempt to get the vocal chords going and sinuses cleared; what a great testimony to one of the staples of the South Korean diet.
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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i love korean food. not a first. at first, i couldn't stomach it. the bits o beef in leaf is a good start.
i left korea for china and now...about all i eat is korean. the stuff is addictive. you get about six little side dishes with the main course. the differences in the food work on the palate in a fascinating way: spicy vs mild, hot vs. cold and other copntrasts that my non-foodie vocab fails to capture.
i eat in the company restaurant and there maybe 100 folks in there and it is stone quiet as everyone is so enrapt inthe unique culinary experience that is eating korean. like "real" koreans, i don't even need water anymore.
great stuff and if i don't have it for a day or two i get the yearning for such. yeah, i love the kimchi. |
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BS.Dos.
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I was very picky when I arrived. There's still a few dishes that I don't eat, but it actually surprises me to say that I do now enjoy more Korean dishes than I ever thought I would. I'm actually going to miss a couple of dishes when I leave. |
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i
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul
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Only read about half the posts on this thread. Don't think it's been mentioned, but many Korean dishes are the result of so much poverty and starvation in Korean history. While the rich could dine on pork and beef while times were good, most had to survive on eating dog, pickling veggies and such when times were good. Famine has raised its evil head here many times in history.
Like the drink Makali (sp?). That was a slave drink. But it's a part of history and every level of society drinks it now.
Boshintang? They couldn't afford to kill the cow. It was needed to farm. So eat the dog. Soo-jae-bee, a result of the UN shipping in flour and Koreans trying to figure out how the hell to eat it.
My relatives eat lutefisk. It's a disgusting Scandinavian meal whose origins come out of poverty. Apparently someone accidentally dropped their fish in the soap and a legendary recipe lives on. Many Scandinavians and those whose ancestors were, get some kind of joy eating it. So there are parallels. |
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Crockpot2001
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Only read about half the posts on this thread. Don't think it's been mentioned, but many Korean dishes are the result of so much poverty and starvation in Korean history. While the rich could dine on pork and beef while times were good, most had to survive on eating dog, pickling veggies and such when times were good. Famine has raised its evil head here many times in history.
Like the drink Makali (sp?). That was a slave drink. But it's a part of history and every level of society drinks it now.
Boshintang? They couldn't afford to kill the cow. It was needed to farm. So eat the dog. Soo-jae-bee, a result of the UN shipping in flour and Koreans trying to figure out how the hell to eat it.
My relatives eat lutefisk. It's a disgusting Scandinavian meal whose origins come out of poverty. Apparently someone accidentally dropped their fish in the soap and a legendary recipe lives on. Many Scandinavians and those whose ancestors were, get some kind of joy eating it. So there are parallels. |
I agree with your post. However there comes a division when you ask a Fin if lutefisk is "the best food in the world" or "good for man" or "cures cancer". I spent a month with Swedish friends who seemed ambivilent about their own food and rightfully so. They realize there is better out there. In addition, in all the times my friends from Europe visited us, they never brought their foods unless we asked. Lingenberries on salmon are nummy! |
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Seoul'n'Corea
Joined: 06 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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I dont know, some of the stuff I've tried has been okay..
잡채 (Japchae), the soysauced clearish noodles with peppers, carrots, onions, and bits of ground beef etc
닭도리탕(?)(Dak Dori Tang) Chicken.. stew. reddish but not spicy, the potatoes that go in the dish are GREAT
갈비찜 (Galbi Jjim) instead of galbitang.
김치전 (Kimchi jeon) batter mix of flour(?) some green stuff, and of course kimchi. pour a bit into a frying pan. when cooked, flip. Like Korean pancakes  it's quite good actually. |
Not exactly on #2 Ttakbokumtang - the other name was named during the Japanese occupation.
Cheon - many types out there. My favourite is hobakjeon. it is Really amazing! |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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What's your excuse UrMy? You are still venting and complaining about the same things year after year. By your logic I think you should leave these boards.
There's a difference between complaining and pointing out the silliness of complaining about issues one can easily change. But I wouldn't expect you to know that...why are YOU still here?
BTW, what's with this defending Dokdo against Japanese invasion crap?
Don't you think you or South Korea have bigger fish to fry like...ummm...North Korea perhaps? |
It's specially for you. Glad you noticed. |
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