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More Graphics Card Woes :: SOLVED
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:30 am    Post subject: More Graphics Card Woes :: SOLVED Reply with quote

So I fitted a new card today.
http://www.gmarket.co.kr/challenge/neo_goods/goods.asp?goodscode=150481444&pos_shop_cd=SH&pos_class_cd=111111111&pos_class_kind=T&search_keyword=nvidia

Now with the new card fitted, I get no post, nothing, not a solitary beep. The fan on the card starts up, but there's no post.

Boots fine with the old card refitted.

So I think I need a power supply replacement now! This card needs a 300 watts and I don't know what's in my machine.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!


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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 8400 has very low power requirements. It's unlikely your PSU is flaking out.


If another graphics works, but your new one doesn't.....then there's a chance that your new one is a dud. The motherboard won't post if it doesn't get the correct okay from the graphics card.

If possible, try your new card out in another PC. That will confirm if the card works or not. Remember to uninstall previous GPU drivers and reinstall latest drivers.

It's not unknown for graphics cards out of the box to not work.
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THanks so much for the info.

I read on Nvidia's site GeForce 8400 GS cards have a maximum power draw of 71 watts, which is low. So I think you are right. I have a dud. My PSU is 350, I took a peek.

I thought this was gonna be simple.


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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just went to http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
which told me I needed a 400 watt PSU min for my PC specs.

Anyway, I will try to get the card tested in another pc to make sure its ok first.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless you're running a high-spec, overclocked, Quad CPU, with bleeding edge GPU, then don't need to worry about the power supply.

Tell us your rig. Which Windows?

I would be surprised that a buyer of a 8400 would have a power supply issue.

That's a very low-end graphics card
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Jeff's Cigarettes



Joined: 27 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to completely wipe the old drivers...sounds like that's where ur issues are.
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help guys.

Jeff, the computer won't even post. Not even any error beeps or anything so it's not getting anywhere near windows drivers.

Specs:
Manufacturer :
Mainboard : Asus P5B
Chipset : Intel P965
Processor : Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 2400 MHz
Physical Memory : 2048 MB (2 x 1024 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X300 Series
Hard Disk : ST3320620AS (320 GB)
Hard Disk : SATA (320 GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H10N SCSI CdRom Device
DVD-Rom Drive : ELBY CLONEDRIVE SCSI CdRom Device
Network Card : Realtek Semiconductor RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
DirectX : Version 9.0c (May 2008)
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Jeff's Cigarettes



Joined: 27 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dOES THE CARD SHOW IN THE DEVICE MANAGER?
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no windows device manager, there is no POST.
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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried the old blowing in the slot voodoo? I've had this problem before which I fixed by removing and firmly reinserting the card. Also try connecting a different powerlead to your card.

I've also managed to have the card detect by resetting after the unsucessfull post.


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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff's Cigarettes wrote:
dOES THE CARD SHOW IN THE DEVICE MANAGER?


Jeff, if a machine won't get past the Power On Self Test, then it can't possibly be a software problem. A PC should POST properly even if no hard drive is attached.
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SHANE02



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This card needs no power cable attached as far as I can see, it just useses the PCIE power. Check out the picture here : http://www.gmarket.co.kr/challenge/neo_goods/goods.asp?goodscode=150481444&pos_shop_cd=SH&pos_class_cd=111111111&pos_class_kind=T&keyword_order=8400gs&search_keyword=8400gs


I'll try re-seating the card, but I've done it 3 times.

Thanks for the help.
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Jeff's Cigarettes



Joined: 27 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well throw it out the window and but an ATI like u should have in the first place.
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SHANE02



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not just yet Jeff Very Happy
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well no luck refitting the card at all. I will take it to the PC store next to the apt. tomorrow and ask the guy to test it in another machine. Mad
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