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bobranger
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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How do I get taken seriously, you ask?
I write a scathing poison-pen report on my "application for renewal form," reporting everything from the staff's insensitivity toward my refusal to eat live octopus, to co-teachers' negligence of not showing up to class, of the 45 minute haul to work every morning, but I do it with a serious tone, you know, to the effect of: "Yeah, I know it wasn't easy. But I did it. And I did it right."
Which is just what I did.
I just spoke with the head of the English department and he assured me their evaluation will not be sent to the Gyeonggi board, and they will not in any way threaten my future employment in Korea; he basically kissed my ass and apologized on the school's behalf until I said I'll rewrite my report on the school, to soften the tone a bit, and not to make it appear as though the school and I are on bad terms.
I had the trump card, yeah, and I played it! Take that, fat-ass-live-octopus-sucking VP! Speak Korean ALL YOU WANT, I DONT GIVVA F***--BUT NOT IN MY CLASS YOU DON'T 'CAUSE IT'S AN "*ALL-ENGLISH ZONE,*" YA SAVAGE! |
Do you really think anyone can take you seriously after this post. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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How do I get taken seriously, you ask?
I write a scathing poison-pen report on my "application for renewal form," reporting everything from the staff's insensitivity toward my refusal to eat live octopus, to co-teachers' negligence of not showing up to class, of the 45 minute haul to work every morning, but I do it with a serious tone, you know, to the effect of: "Yeah, I know it wasn't easy. But I did it. And I did it right."
Which is just what I did.
I just spoke with the head of the English department and he assured me their evaluation will not be sent to the Gyeonggi board, and they will not in any way threaten my future employment in Korea; he basically kissed my ass and apologized on the school's behalf until I said I'll rewrite my report on the school, to soften the tone a bit, and not to make it appear as though the school and I are on bad terms.
I had the trump card, yeah, and I played it! Take that, fat-ass-live-octopus-sucking VP! Speak Korean ALL YOU WANT, I DONT GIVVA F***--BUT NOT IN MY CLASS YOU DON'T 'CAUSE IT'S AN "*ALL-ENGLISH ZONE,*" YA SAVAGE! |
Do you really think anyone can take you seriously after this post. |
He's starting to sound like the gyopo version of fromtheuk.
Do you really think any official, anywhere in Korea, would care the slightest about your aversion to live octopus. A couple of homeroom teachers took my co-teacher and me out for lunch last year. One of the items that came was (small) live octopus. I tried a couple. We had some soju. We made some jeong. We say good morning / annyeonghasaeyo / bangupsumnida to each other every morning when we meet. We get along great.
If a bloody octopus is more important than your relationship with your coworkers (and thereby your students) I really suggest that you look somewhere else than a Korean public school for your next job. |
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skeptical
Joined: 27 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 2:55 am Post subject: |
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you truly miss the point. the fuckers were teasing me 'cause I didn't eat it. some welcoming party. my point is that it was simply from that point that the VP and I didn't get along. then my co-teacher became his little sl*t, and tried to get everyone on the hate-train against me, 'cause she's a newbie and just sucks up given any opportunity she can to any slight scent of authority.
there is clearly a handful of teachers there I get along with, including the principal. one time after we drank he invited me to crash over, and I did.
in the above example I was simply telling a story, either whose humour just escaped you, or you're just being hard on me, which is understandable.
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How do I get taken seriously, you ask?
I write a scathing poison-pen report on my "application for renewal form," reporting everything from the staff's insensitivity toward my refusal to eat live octopus, to co-teachers' negligence of not showing up to class, of the 45 minute haul to work every morning, but I do it with a serious tone, you know, to the effect of: "Yeah, I know it wasn't easy. But I did it. And I did it right."
Which is just what I did.
I just spoke with the head of the English department and he assured me their evaluation will not be sent to the Gyeonggi board, and they will not in any way threaten my future employment in Korea; he basically kissed my ass and apologized on the school's behalf until I said I'll rewrite my report on the school, to soften the tone a bit, and not to make it appear as though the school and I are on bad terms.
I had the trump card, yeah, and I played it! Take that, fat-ass-live-octopus-sucking VP! Speak Korean ALL YOU WANT, I DONT GIVVA F***--BUT NOT IN MY CLASS YOU DON'T 'CAUSE IT'S AN "*ALL-ENGLISH ZONE,*" YA SAVAGE! |
Do you really think anyone can take you seriously after this post. |
He's starting to sound like the gyopo version of fromtheuk.
Do you really think any official, anywhere in Korea, would care the slightest about your aversion to live octopus. A couple of homeroom teachers took my co-teacher and me out for lunch last year. One of the items that came was (small) live octopus. I tried a couple. We had some soju. We made some jeong. We say good morning / annyeonghasaeyo / bangupsumnida to each other every morning when we meet. We get along great.
If a bloody octopus is more important than your relationship with your coworkers (and thereby your students) I really suggest that you look somewhere else than a Korean public school for your next job. |
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skeptical
Joined: 27 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:01 am Post subject: |
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I know, it's hard to believe, but it worked out in my favour, yeah. See, despite what you think, I still command much respect with a good chunk of the teachers there who actually know what the *beep* I've been up to.
Most teachers at our school with at least half-a-brain think the VP is a cretin anyway, and I'm sure they'd be on my side if he wasn't such a "heavyweight." it's a game of politics between the staff, you see, and our VP. and I've got the staff on my side, and the VP is pretty much check-mated now. They know I've got 'em by the balls, and they can't do shit. anyway, ... so much for school politics. what a load of shit. my point, if forced, is that you just gotta know how to play the game, which of course can't be possible if you've lost the respect of all your co-workers. But you'd have to be a complete idiot for that, clearly.
I got permission to leave early today from the department head. 2 hours early, punks.
I'll be leaving early for the next two days, just watch me.
It's all about pride, self-respect, and dignity. Even if you're late 30 minutes everyday--show up to each class, do it without complaint, do your job the best you can, and if they think they can pull shit on you, just write a decent letter and tell them they are fucked if they try anything, but politely and in a dignified way.
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How do I get taken seriously, you ask?
I write a scathing poison-pen report on my "application for renewal form," reporting everything from the staff's insensitivity toward my refusal to eat live octopus, to co-teachers' negligence of not showing up to class, of the 45 minute haul to work every morning, but I do it with a serious tone, you know, to the effect of: "Yeah, I know it wasn't easy. But I did it. And I did it right."
Which is just what I did.
I just spoke with the head of the English department and he assured me their evaluation will not be sent to the Gyeonggi board, and they will not in any way threaten my future employment in Korea; he basically kissed my ass and apologized on the school's behalf until I said I'll rewrite my report on the school, to soften the tone a bit, and not to make it appear as though the school and I are on bad terms.
I had the trump card, yeah, and I played it! Take that, fat-ass-live-octopus-sucking VP! Speak Korean ALL YOU WANT, I DONT GIVVA F***--BUT NOT IN MY CLASS YOU DON'T 'CAUSE IT'S AN "*ALL-ENGLISH ZONE,*" YA SAVAGE! |
Do you really think anyone can take you seriously after this post. |
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fromtheuk
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:27 am Post subject: |
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I would encourage you to be punctual.
As regards being taken seriously, who cares?!!
I applaud your efforts to maintain self-respect.
It's something yup bottom kiss cannot grasp, poor thing.
My approach is to stay on nodding terms with the Principal and ignore everybody else. Show them how irrelevant they know they all are.
I find non-participation combined with walking around school with mock over-confidence, and awful fake smiles is the best way to convey to my colleagues my disgust over their antics.
All the best!  |
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skeptical
Joined: 27 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:30 am Post subject: |
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finally, someone understands!
yes, over-confidence is key. also distance, indifference.
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I would encourage you to be punctual.
As regards being taken seriously, who cares?!!
I applaud your efforts to maintain self-respect.
It's something yup bottom kiss cannot grasp, poor thing.
My approach is to stay on nodding terms with the Principal and ignore everybody else. Show them how irrelevant they know they all are.
I find non-participation combined with walking around school with mock over-confidence, and awful fake smiles is the best way to convey to my colleagues my disgust over their antics.
All the best! |
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fromtheuk
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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It takes time to sink in how awful your colleagues can be, but if you literally hold your head high, and raise it higher every time they try to disrespect you, you gradually take the wind out of their sails.
It takes effort, but can be fun! |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:32 am Post subject: Re: Arriving at 9am rather than 8:30am |
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I've been arriving at 9am rather than 8:30am mostly because it takes me nearly an hour to get to school in the morning by bus.
The vice principal got me to sign a silly form saying I'll arrive at 8:30am, but I can't stand the idea of losing two hours of my day just for the sake of reputation, so I've been making it to class by 9am lately, where now my co-teacher is saying my end-of-term-evaluation came out very negatively.
But not only the hour trip to school every morning, but I am expected to teach all my classes, for the most part, on my own, because the co-teachers do not stay in class with me, that is, if they come to class at all.
I thought at the beginning of the year this would be okay, but realized not only is it a necessary part of the contract for my co-teachers to be in every class, but that this is paramount to discipline in the classroom, which inevitably is crucial for the quality of education these children receive.
In the end, I feel I'm being kicked in the nuts, for whatever reason, and the students are deprived of good, quality, class time (although I have done my best, including lectures/presentations on art history, classical civilizations, religious studies, and the history of kimchi), while the lazy teachers who evidently don't like me for whatever reason (is it because the students like me more than them? I wouldn't blame the students), this may prevent me from staying next year in Korea, even if I apply to a different education board, for instance if I switch from EPIK (Incheon) to GEPIK (Gyonggi-do).
Seriously though, I'm convinced that education in Incheon, at least, is flawed from the top down, and I need to find a better place--though I'm not sure whether now this will be possible--
My question: Will the evaluation my Incheon co-teachers give be of any importance for my application to teach in Gyeonggi-do?
My vice principal reportedly said that he is going to send the evaluation to the Gyeonggi board-- and I don't even know why he bothered saying this, other than my incomprehensible co-teacher told him I applied there last week.
Help! I want to teach in Korea, but not like this. |
If you knew " how to play the game" why did you ask for help?
I must say that I am skeptical of the last posts where you suddenly went from craven noob to brazen old timer. . |
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OneWayTraffic
Joined: 14 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:47 am Post subject: |
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you truly miss the point. the fuckers were teasing me 'cause I didn't eat it. some welcoming party. my point is that it was simply from that point that the VP and I didn't get along. then my co-teacher became his little sl*t, and tried to get everyone on the hate-train against me, 'cause she's a newbie and just sucks up given any opportunity she can to any slight scent of authority.
there is clearly a handful of teachers there I get along with, including the principal. one time after we drank he invited me to crash over, and I did.
in the above example I was simply telling a story, either whose humour just escaped you, or you're just being hard on me, which is understandable.
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| bobranger wrote: |
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How do I get taken seriously, you ask?
I write a scathing poison-pen report on my "application for renewal form," reporting everything from the staff's insensitivity toward my refusal to eat live octopus, to co-teachers' negligence of not showing up to class, of the 45 minute haul to work every morning, but I do it with a serious tone, you know, to the effect of: "Yeah, I know it wasn't easy. But I did it. And I did it right."
Which is just what I did.
I just spoke with the head of the English department and he assured me their evaluation will not be sent to the Gyeonggi board, and they will not in any way threaten my future employment in Korea; he basically kissed my ass and apologized on the school's behalf until I said I'll rewrite my report on the school, to soften the tone a bit, and not to make it appear as though the school and I are on bad terms.
I had the trump card, yeah, and I played it! Take that, fat-ass-live-octopus-sucking VP! Speak Korean ALL YOU WANT, I DONT GIVVA F***--BUT NOT IN MY CLASS YOU DON'T 'CAUSE IT'S AN "*ALL-ENGLISH ZONE,*" YA SAVAGE! |
Do you really think anyone can take you seriously after this post. |
He's starting to sound like the gyopo version of fromtheuk.
Do you really think any official, anywhere in Korea, would care the slightest about your aversion to live octopus. A couple of homeroom teachers took my co-teacher and me out for lunch last year. One of the items that came was (small) live octopus. I tried a couple. We had some soju. We made some jeong. We say good morning / annyeonghasaeyo / bangupsumnida to each other every morning when we meet. We get along great.
If a bloody octopus is more important than your relationship with your coworkers (and thereby your students) I really suggest that you look somewhere else than a Korean public school for your next job. |
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Take it from someone who's been here 7 years. Don't try and change them. If they offer you live octopus and you won't eat it, then order something else from the menu. Otherwise suck it up. If they want to tease, then grin and bear it. Fight the battles that count. What's more important? Live octopus or that 1 hr commute? I'd play that commute into something, like having the principle let you stay home when schools out or something.
If the principal says not to bother teaching (because they're poor) isn't it better to say that once all Korea was poor, and education is the way to success? Poor people are just as smart as rich people, if they're given the education and opportunity. That way you can not only show your dedication, but subtly chide him as well. In a way he'll at least respect. |
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EricaSmile84
Joined: 23 Jan 2008
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Sorry, I'm having a hard time with this live octopus thing.... from what I read, the "live octopus" was actually cooked octopus that was alive when it came to your table. The actual "live octopus meal" is taking a living, baby octopus and putting it in your mouth and chewing. So really, you didn't eat live octupus, you ate dead, cooked octopus.
Both methods would make me sick (eating an animal alive or seeing it being killed at my table) but I'd take one over the other. |
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Darashii
Joined: 08 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Arriving at 9am rather than 8:30am |
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f you knew " how to play the game" why did you ask for help?
I must say that I am skeptical of the last posts where you suddenly went from craven noob to brazen old timer. . |
Too true. I'm pretty sure "skeptical" is now on the global "ignore list".
Still, your posts have been entertaining. |
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smedini
Joined: 02 Apr 2008
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Troll
~smedini |
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Jeff's Cigarettes
Joined: 27 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Funny how many feel they have right and reason to go against what's written in the contract but if the school went against, they'd be be screaming bloody murder and threatening to go the the labor board. Funny, it is. |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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OP sounds like a wanker.
I hope you don't get a job anywhere, but of course, some other unlucky school will take you.
Teachers are required to be at work at 8:30...don't like it, don't take the job.
dumbass. |
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old'ntired'
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: |
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i suspect fromtheuk and skeptical are one in the same person and he was also:
wackers, orpheusdown, supernova, wildsphere, spaceman, yesterdays child, man of the year, victim of love, (there has to be more) most banned by the way. i think he registered dozens of names at pc bangs when he was getting banned on a weekly basis.
he has been doing this trolling stuff for about five years and i'm beginning to suspect that most of the bizarre trolling is done by him and his socks. perhaps some oldtimers remember him? |
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