Korean Job Discussion Forums

[ajgeddes]

[Straphanger]

[IlIlNine]

<shrug>

I stick with my original suggestion.

Make a sticky thread with the name of the thread and the reason it was pulled. It's not that much work.

That way:

1) People know what happened to threads (esp. OPs and honest contributors).

2) People may appreciate the job that mods do more.

3) More importantly, everyone knows which moron(s) is/are responsible for a thread deletion, which would, I believe, lead to an increase in self-moderation. There would be a little more peer pressure on useless posters to clean their act up. Right now there is no such incentive.

I understand the situation you're in. Frankly, it's the reason why there's 'free speech' in most countries -- because it takes an awful lot of work (and stepping on people's toes) to control it. It's a losing battle. The way to get it under control however, is not to be more strict. The way to bring it under control is to foster a society where the social culture discourages the actions you wish to control. The only real way to do this is to increase the transparency of moderation. The sticky is one way. Another is greater interaction with the user base.

The fact that you get paid or not is irrelevant. This is the job you chose to do, and because of that commitment, you should do the best that you can. If you can't because of other commitments, then quit.

Just some random hackneyed "free speech" ranting..

[esetters21]

[Huh Kyung-young]

It's not a bad suggestion, IlIlNine. Can't guarantee it'll happen, but it's worth a thought.

On the other hand, it's far easier to make demands of others than to step up to the plate and do something yourself. But the fact remains: there IS something you can do, right now, to avoid having your worthwhile contributions become collateral damage when the Dave's 'tards strike. Report that trash before it reaches critical mass and takes the whole thread out with it.

I, for one, would be far more amenable to reporting on the whens and whys of thread removal in a sticky thread if users took a more active role in reporting inappropriate posts. People love to gripe when a thread is removed, but how many of you actually do anything when you see something that's clearly beyond the pale? It's akin to people in a crime-ridden neighborhood who complain about heavy-handed police response�but do nothing when they witness a crime in progress.

[Huh Kyung-young]

esetters, I don't know what your beef is. It's quite simple, really.

It's Dave's site. The man has a business to run. He provides the forums as a service to teachers. If that service becomes a detriment to his livelihood, it doesn't make sense for him to continue it. With me so far?

If you like Dave's forums and want to see them continue, play nice, encourage others to do the same, and report those who don't. If you don't like the rules in this sandbox, take your shovel and pail and find another one�or go dig your own mudhole and wallow in it.

If you require unlimited free speech, this isn't the forum for you. I really don't know how to make it any clearer.

[Straphanger]

[crosbystillsstash]

So dave makes a ton from advertized jobs right? Only because of the people on these boards. What if the do go elsewhere?


What's worse is negative threads about heavy advertizers are removed without explaination.

[esetters21]

[esetters21]

[Straphanger]

I think my question was quite direct, and nobody has answered it. Suggesting that people go somewhere else to go when it's impossible to communicate where those other places are...I wonder what the issue is there?

[ryoga013]

[Koveras]

Was Cornfed banned? I notice he hasn't said anything in a while.

[bassexpander]

Back to my original point...

I don't think the mods have killed this place off. It's the slowness of the board. Nobody can post. It's bad. I'm beginning to think it's on purpose.

It's nice to see we have some mods responding in this thread, rather than using their socks. Seeing as a few of you almost never post unless you're carrying out some form of discipline, we have to assume you're actually other common posters on here. I'd probably do the same.

So mods.... direct question for public post (no PM's please)....

Why is the board so slow lately?

[GreenlightmeansGO]

Wasn't this thread locked for a little time, or was I imagining it?