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chaz47
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 Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: I want to upgrade the HD in my Dell Inspiron, any advice? |
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It's an Inspiron 6000. I'm not sure what sort of SATA drive it would need, 1.5 or 3.0. I assume it's 1.5 as it was (if I remember correctly) the 2003 model. Will any 2.5" drive work so long as it is the right SATA generation or is there some funky math for notebooks that confuses the BIOS into thinking that a 320GB drive is only 263GB or something like that.
Thanks for any advice. |
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tfunk
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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I've no idea, but Dell components are usually deliberately proprietary because they'd prefer you to buy a new notebook then upgrade the individual components...
...at least that's my conspiracy theory. |
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chevro1et
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Location: Busan, ROK
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| Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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You should be able to replace (or have it replaced by a tech) with no prob. If you take it to a tech, they will make an image of your OS, and put that on the new hdd for you. ANy 2.5" drive will be fine, SATA 3.0 is backwards compatible w. 1.5
As for the math, it goes like this... all computer data is binary (base 2) math, and 1 mb = 1024 b. However, the naming conventions have rounded 1024 down to 1000 for simplicity. A 320 GB hdd actually has (320/ 1.024) 312 GB, and then when formatted loses a little more space. |
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chaz47
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| chevro1et wrote: |
| they will make an image of your OS, and put that on the new hdd for you. |
I've still got the "rescue disks". They should work to format the new drive, right?
| chevro1et wrote: |
| ANy 2.5" drive will be fine, SATA 3.0 is backwards compatible w. 1.5 |
Are you sure about this one? Most of the web sites I've checked out have old information, but they seemed to indicate that it was something about the mobo that restricted the option of 1.5 or 3.0.
Oh, and what's the highest capacity drive I could find here in Korea and where might I get it?
Thanks for the help. I seriously appreciate it. |
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I_Am_The_Kiwi
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| why not just buy external......cheap and easy. |
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chaz47
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chevro1et
Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Location: Busan, ROK
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| chaz47 wrote: |
| chevro1et wrote: |
| they will make an image of your OS, and put that on the new hdd for you. |
I've still got the "rescue disks". They should work to format the new drive, right?
| chevro1et wrote: |
| ANy 2.5" drive will be fine, SATA 3.0 is backwards compatible w. 1.5 |
Are you sure about this one? Most of the web sites I've checked out have old information, but they seemed to indicate that it was something about the mobo that restricted the option of 1.5 or 3.0.
Oh, and what's the highest capacity drive I could find here in Korea and where might I get it?
Thanks for the help. I seriously appreciate it. |
The rescue disks or recovery disks may work, I dunno if they are actually the OS disk(s) or not. The thing with reformatting a laptop is drivers... they can be difficult to find. If a tech burns an image of your current install and then re-images a new hdd, all drivers are there, all your installed programs are installed already, etc.
Yes, I am sure that SATA 3.0 is backwards compatible with SATA 1.5 The difference is the data transfer rate, thats all. (3.0 Gb/s vs 1.5Gb/s) |
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chevro1et
Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Location: Busan, ROK
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| chaz47 wrote: |
| chevro1et wrote: |
| they will make an image of your OS, and put that on the new hdd for you. |
I've still got the "rescue disks". They should work to format the new drive, right?
| chevro1et wrote: |
| ANy 2.5" drive will be fine, SATA 3.0 is backwards compatible w. 1.5 |
Are you sure about this one? Most of the web sites I've checked out have old information, but they seemed to indicate that it was something about the mobo that restricted the option of 1.5 or 3.0.
Oh, and what's the highest capacity drive I could find here in Korea and where might I get it?
Thanks for the help. I seriously appreciate it. |
The rescue disks or recovery disks may work, I dunno if they are actually the OS disk(s) or not. The thing with reformatting a laptop is drivers... they can be difficult to find. If a tech burns an image of your current install and then re-images a new hdd, all drivers are there, all your installed programs are installed already, etc.
Yes, I am sure that SATA 3.0 is backwards compatible with SATA 1.5 The difference is the data transfer rate, thats all. (3.0 Gb/s vs 1.5Gb/s) |
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I_Am_The_Kiwi
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| Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| Get Norton Ghost and make you own image then load it on to the new drive. Youll need to install it aswell as burn the recovery CD. Works great. |
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keetrainchild
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| chevro1et wrote: |
Yes, I am sure that SATA 3.0 is backwards compatible with SATA 1.5 The difference is the data transfer rate, thats all. (3.0 Gb/s vs 1.5Gb/s) |
And good luck finding a hard drive that can actually transfer data at 1.5 Gigabits per second.. |
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chevro1et
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| keetrainchild wrote: |
| chevro1et wrote: |
Yes, I am sure that SATA 3.0 is backwards compatible with SATA 1.5 The difference is the data transfer rate, thats all. (3.0 Gb/s vs 1.5Gb/s) |
And good luck finding a hard drive that can actually transfer data at 1.5 Gigabits per second.. |
This table shows the real speed of SATA 1.5 Gbit/s and SATA 3 Gbit/s - note the bottom row shows megabytes per second (MB/s, not Mbit/s):
SATA 1.5Gb/s SATA 3Gb/s
Frequency 1500 MHz 3000 MHz
Bits/clock 1 1
8b10b encoding 80% 80%
bits/Byte 8 8
Real speed 150 MB/s 300 MB/s |
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keetrainchild
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| chevro1et wrote: |
This table shows the real speed of SATA 1.5 Gbit/s and SATA 3 Gbit/s - note the bottom row shows megabytes per second (MB/s, not Mbit/s):
SATA 1.5Gb/s SATA 3Gb/s
Frequency 1500 MHz 3000 MHz
Bits/clock 1 1
8b10b encoding 80% 80%
bits/Byte 8 8
Real speed 150 MB/s 300 MB/s |
Are those burst or sustained transfer rates? I'd almost be willing to bet a RAID array that they're burst... unless they're some new hyper-expensive SSD disks or something.
Edit: Nevermind; those figures you posted were from a Wikipedia page about the speed of the SATA interfaces themselves, not SATA drives. According to that page, then, the SATA interfaces themselves had a speed of 150MB/s and 300MB/s, which is 1.2Gb/s and 2.4Gb/s. |
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