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amemorylost



Joined: 19 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no Picasso wrote:

I taught "tattletale" as a vocab word.

Definition? If you have anything to say in class that requires two or more "Teacher!"s before it, then YOU are a tattletale....


I'm totally stealing that.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:


So... does thought structure language, or does language structure thought?


Can I say both, or is that being a wimp?
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
cruisemonkey wrote:


So... does thought structure language, or does language structure thought?


Can I say both, or is that being a wimp?


After much thought (in my native language) I've come to the conclusion that "both" is correct; and that tattletales deserve to be hit because they're wimps. Wink "If you can tell me another English word for 'tattletale', I'll let you hit him again." Everything is a teaching opportunity. Cool

Shaping and molding malleable little (middle school) K-minds is fun. Very Happy
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asams



Joined: 17 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i promise i didn't stir something up then run off. i was at an internet cafe (since i haven't received and ARC card yet) and needed to get some rest.

i feel like i did the right thing, walking away while the children were there. and judging by most of your comments, you think i did the right thing too. i feel like my school thinks i'm a troublemaker, which is far from the truth, i hate drama.

after being slighted and not being asked to go to dinner or go skiing when the other native teachers were I've decided that I cannot peacefully coexist with the teachers at that school for a whole year

what are the repercussions of asking out of my contract at this point? I'm about a month in. should I say I'll finish the semester (end of February) then I'm done? the VP is awesome, he lives in front of us, and really helps us out, it's the korean teachers that think they're our boss, not the person who pays our salary.

and should I talk to my recruiter about public school? or should I try to find one myself?
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No way, a young newbie didn't write this. Is this a troll sock or what. OP, I'm truly sorry if I'm wrong and feel really bad for you. How screwy is this?
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fusionbarnone



Joined: 31 May 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buymybook wrote:
Sorry, but you are a young pup. You will be treated as such if you let them. If anyone yells at me I walk away. It is pretty simply, you should let them know that if they yell at you at anytime, especially in front of your students then you will absolutely walk away. Tell them if they do not respect you, you will do anything to not allow them to do that.

FYI, if you touch them you will be in BIG trouble. You could end up in jail. There isn't a Korean law enforcement official that will stand up for you. If you "drop" your Handler in the bathroom expect to wind up in the slammer. It does not matter if he touches you first, you are the foreigner any you will NOT win.

You said they didn't touch you and then right after that they he/they "forcefully" made you go into the bathroom. Which is it? FYI, forcefully usually means physically.


That's nice advice but doesn't always work in practice. But yes avoid physical confrontations in the workplace. Get to know who is who; co-teacher, chief administrator, etc.

In my first year in Korea I had the very same thing(pulled by the arm) by my superviser to the roaring laughter of thirty-two Korean elementary English teachers. Some BS just happens too fast for your wits to keep up with(told him I'd quit too; was a big show for saving his f-ing face should the teachers fail the exam I'd set for them. The wanker). I tried to appease the dude and all thus maintaining a truce and scoring some semblance of a "friendship" however, I don't think he liked foreigners at all so I guess trying to be some peoples friend is a plain waste of time.

Network with others; get a cellphone(don't tell them your number); keep on at them for things they should be helping you with( I had no hot water for three months as I had no one to explain how the Ondol system worked until a kindly elementary K-teacher began organizing things for me. Korea and Koreans can become intimidating to the point where you just want to avoid them all.

Learn and practice K-etiquette(get friendly with the right people. I was continually being told how I'd just PO-ed someone but I learnt how to get on with others), You'll learn to win and get some peace eventually. It takes time before Koreans start to accept you as "their" NET. However, doesn't that confucianistic BS suck; don't let everybody try to own you.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asams,

Come to my public school and I'll kick you in the gochu and your non-existent balls. Wink
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't let anybody show you up in front of your students. If it causes that Kimberly to lose face, he can cry into his soju and go back to pushing his wife around at home as per usual.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crusher_of_heads wrote:
If it causes that Kimberly to lose face, he can cry into his soju...


No!... then Kimberly will be rejected by a 'hostess'/juicy girl because he has "No power", and in his soju-soaked stupor, try to get into my apartment at 0330 on a Tuesday morning. Rolling Eyes
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