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nicam

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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:26 am Post subject: Is Seoul THAT much colder than Busan? |
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I've been planning on moving to Seoul after my contract in the boonies of Geoje is up, but as a former California resident I am utterly paralyzed by the cold. It's actually sad. I can barely bring myself to leave the house these days (thanks in part to a sexy electric blanket), and when I do the tears stream down my face and it's like a constant assault on every fiber of my being as I walk down the windy streets wondering if masochism is the primary driving force behind human habitation in subzero temperatures. I really really think Seoul is where it's at, but am considering Busan instead because of the more moderate climate.
I guess my question is, since Busan is coastal, is the wind chill that much more extreme that it cancels out any relief one might feel from the comparatively higher temperatures? Would the difference be noticable enough to justify moving to a city that is a distant 2nd choice?
Has anyone been in this situation and gotten used to the crazy weather up north? Does anyone wish they would have avoided Seoul because of the cold?
Did some research on wind chill on the worldwidewebs, but to little avail... |
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victorology
Joined: 10 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:35 am Post subject: |
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People tell me Busan is a lot colder than the temperature indicates because it is on the coast and because of the wind. I have never lived there so I can't say. If Busan is a distant second choice, then I would just moved to Seoul. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:36 am Post subject: |
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I lived in both cities.
Busan is SLIGHTLY warmer in the winter and SLIGHTLY cooler in the summer. However, the weather is more or less the same, and I wouldn't choose one over the other solely because of it.
However, when you are actually in Seoul (or any large city), the large buildings create a lot of warmth, and cut down on the strong breezes. So while temperature-wise, it's cold, it seems you spend a lot more time in the protection of subways or buildings or streets with buildings which block the wind - compared to say Geoje-do, which I'd imagine is fairly open to strong breezes all the time during the winter? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:43 am Post subject: |
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I've lived in Seoul for 3 years and Jinhae (just down the coast from Busan) for 4 years. The south coast is significantly warmer. I found I didn't need a real winter coat in Jinhae. In Seoul I most definitely do.
I vote Busan if the cold bothers you so much. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
I've lived in Seoul for 3 years and Jinhae (just down the coast from Busan) for 4 years. The south coast is significantly warmer. I found I didn't need a real winter coat in Jinhae. In Seoul I most definitely do. |
Exactly. No winter coat needed down here and in my four winters on Geoje Island (2002-2006) it snowed exactly ONCE, and the snow was gone by noon.
You are from California and find Geoje "too cold"? It's 6 to 12 C colder in Seoul often, believe me, I kept track and travelled between them by express bus a couple dozen times. I know a guy from California who went to Geoje when I left (he got my old job) and he found it cold compared to back home. But for his second year he went up to Gumi and learned what real cold is all about.
Geoje is often 2 to 5 C warmer than Busan by the way. Remember that big snowfall which hit Busan on March 3rd or 5th of 2006? It was beautiful, on the cover of newspapers, the blanket of snow. It rained in Geoje instead, too warm to be snow.
I swam at Geoje beaches from mid-April to mid-October, 20+ C afternoons. It really has among the mildest climates in this country.
March 1st 2007 I went to Yeosu and had to take even my sweater off because the afternoon was so warm. People in Seoul *beep* and complain about the weather so many times when it's actually warm down here.
So, dunno...
Given how much of an issue it seems to be for your Californian skin, perhaps: Buy a winter coat and move to Seoul, or simply move there for six months, starting in the spring. Or get one of those work/living arrangements in Seoul where you can go from apartment to subway to work without going outside! (I met a guy who loved that).
Good luck whatever. |
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esetters21

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:22 am Post subject: |
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VanIslander wrote: |
[You are from California and find Geoje "too cold"? It's 6 to 12 C colder in Seoul often, believe me, I kept track and travelled between them by express bus a couple dozen times. I know a guy from California who went to Geoje when I left (he got my old job) and he found it cold compared to back home. But for his second year he went up to Gumi and learned what real cold is all about.
Geoje is often 2 to 5 C warmer than Busan by the way. Remember that big snowfall which hit Busan on March 3rd or 5th of 2006? It was beautiful, on the cover of newspapers, the blanket of snow. It rained in Geoje instead, too warm to be snow.
I swam at Geoje beaches from mid-April to mid-October, 20+ C afternoons. It really has among the mildest climates in this country.
March 1st 2007 I went to Yeosu and had to take even my sweater off because the afternoon was so warm. People in Seoul *beep* and complain about the weather so many times when it's actually warm down here.
So, dunno...
Given how much of an issue it seems to be for your Californian skin, perhaps: Buy a winter coat and move to Seoul, or simply move there for six months, starting in the spring. Or get one of those work/living arrangements in Seoul where you can go from apartment to subway to work without going outside! (I met a guy who loved that).
Good luck whatever. |
You did well in presenting you case and realising that the OP is from California where they don't measure temperature in Celcius. I guess that he should do the conversions for your many examples of temperature variance.
I purposefully like to teach my students Fahrenheit just to throw them off.
It's a joy when they get the concept and see the difference between California/Florida temps and weather as opposed to the tundra.
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:28 am Post subject: |
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esetters21 wrote: |
... the OP is from California where they don't measure temperature in Celcius... |
translate for the American?
k.. get this... at this very moment it's 34 F on Geoje and 18 F in Seoul according to MSN weather under the fahrenheit system |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:13 am Post subject: |
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Seoul was in the -10 degrees Celcius region this morning. Considering the distance...yeah Seoul is much more colder than Busan. Busan hardly ever gets to freezing or has snow. |
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strange_brew
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Tiger Beer wrote: |
I lived in both cities.
Busan is SLIGHTLY warmer in the winter and SLIGHTLY cooler in the summer. However, the weather is more or less the same, and I wouldn't choose one over the other solely because of it.
However, when you are actually in Seoul (or any large city), the large buildings create a lot of warmth, and cut down on the strong breezes. So while temperature-wise, it's cold, it seems you spend a lot more time in the protection of subways or buildings or streets with buildings which block the wind - compared to say Geoje-do, which I'd imagine is fairly open to strong breezes all the time during the winter? |
Actually, buildings channel the wind, thus making it stronger in many cases. The prairies are a windy place, cities in the prairies are windier. |
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Chet Wautlands

Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:22 am Post subject: |
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I'm from Northern Ontario and I lived in Changwon last year. Changwon is 30-50 minutes from Busan and is MUCH warmer than Seoul where I live now. In fact, Seoul often feels colder than northern Ontario because it is very dry and windy.
If cold really, really bothers you, don't come to Seoul. On Sunday night I got off the bus and saw a woman holding her baby while waiting for a bus. The wind was freezing!! Her hands must have gotten numb because she dropped the baby which shattered to pieces on the ground. |
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nicam

Joined: 14 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:39 am Post subject: |
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On Sunday night I got off the bus and saw a woman holding her baby while waiting for a bus. The wind was freezing!! Her hands must have gotten numb because she dropped the baby which shattered to pieces on the ground. |
HaHa.
The first couple of responses were exactly what I wanted to hear, then it all went downhill from there. Snap, now I'm REALLY reconsidering. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Changwon on the South coast was much much more milder Winter than up North this year. Up North, you'll face extreme cold and problems like freezing pipes. You need a ski mask and the wold works or you'll get too cold just going out for 5 minutes.
In the South, it barely ever freezes and when it does, it's mild; not deep freeze. There's a huge huge difference between the 2. |
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PeteJB
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Gwangju gets the beautiful snow, darn those Jeolla scurvy. |
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Darashii

Joined: 08 Jan 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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It's bootyful alright...and friggin frigid.
I am so glad I didn't take those jobs up in Gyeonggi.
But if you're really worried, just move to Jeju. Why on earth are you on the mainland at all? |
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