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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:16 am    Post subject: Dalian, China Reply with quote

Hi,

Has anyone here lived or lives in Dalian?

I'm thinking about going there to learn Mandarin.

Has anyone done anything similar there?

What did you think of the city, e.g. food, lifestyle, nightlife; how did it compare to Korea?

Thanks
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friend lives there and likes it a lot. People there are very friendly. It is very cold there for about 5 months a year. Beautiful place.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dalian is OK. Small city by the coast... not a lot to do.
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DCJames



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Dalian, China Reply with quote

hugekebab wrote:


What did you think of the city, e.g. food, lifestyle, nightlife; how did it compare to Korea?


I've heard there are ALOT of desperate hookers available if that's what you're looking for.
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Dalian, China Reply with quote

DCJames wrote:
hugekebab wrote:


What did you think of the city, e.g. food, lifestyle, nightlife; how did it compare to Korea?


I've heard there are ALOT of desperate hookers available if that's what you're looking for.


Lol no mate, I mean pubs and legitimate nightclubs.
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Dalian, China Reply with quote

DCJames wrote:
hugekebab wrote:


What did you think of the city, e.g. food, lifestyle, nightlife; how did it compare to Korea?


I've heard there are ALOT of desperate hookers available if that's what you're looking for.



The reason im thinking about it is because I want to learn Mandarin and have heard that the tuition fees would be a lot cheaper there than the larger cities; I've also seen pictures of it on the web and it looks refreshingly unlike a Chinese city.
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pugwall



Joined: 22 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dalian is a good a city as any to study Chinese. Its a pleasant place, nice and clean. It gets really cold for a lot of the year if that concerns you. Their Mandarin should be pretty good as is you are moving towards Heilongjiang. There are a few bars there, I remember a good nepalese bar with nice pizzas and a decent club called JD's that is frequented by expats, students etc but it is a very quiet city and you dont even see many people on the streets. Also think how much time and effort it takes to study Chinese, you need to be really devoted to your studies as the first year is very hard if you want progress. Also be ready for being placed with Koreans who can pick things up with much more ease than you because of similarities of language and study style. Beijing is too expensive these days IMO and too many people there speak English. Look to get a university student to tutor you a few times a week for a couple of hours. This will make a good difference on top of your uni studies. Kunming is a city which is popular for Chinese study because of the nice weather and Xian Jiaotong has really respected courses.
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pugwall wrote:
Dalian is a good a city as any to study Chinese. Its a pleasant place, nice and clean. It gets really cold for a lot of the year if that concerns you. Their Mandarin should be pretty good as is you are moving towards Heilongjiang. There are a few bars there, I remember a good nepalese bar with nice pizzas and a decent club called JD's that is frequented by expats, students etc but it is a very quiet city and you dont even see many people on the streets. Also think how much time and effort it takes to study Chinese, you need to be really devoted to your studies as the first year is very hard if you want progress. Also be ready for being placed with Koreans who can pick things up with much more ease than you because of similarities of language and study style. Beijing is too expensive these days IMO and too many people there speak English. Look to get a university student to tutor you a few times a week for a couple of hours. This will make a good difference on top of your uni studies. Kunming is a city which is popular for Chinese study because of the nice weather and Xian Jiaotong has really respected courses.


Thanks for the more detailed post.

The cold is no problem. I realise I'm really going to have to dig in and work hard the first year (although I'm sure I won't realise quite how frustrating it is until I'm in that position, as it always goes.)
Studying with Koreans worries me if the students at my uni are anything to go by. Is it the usual nonsense of them being too embarrassed to speak in class and the red faces and giggles, because I really don't want to study in that environment.

Do you think private schools with small classes might be better (hagwons basically)?

I was also considering Nanjing university; do you think that the latter may have less Korean students?

Am I going to be looking at 40+ class sizes on individual desks in the unis?

Thanks for the input, I need a reality check before I jump into this, although I'm very much up for it.
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kunming...aah yeh my girlfriend was on about that place last year; it's the place that always has springtime weather, no?

Hmmm this sounds like a nice option; have you ever lived, or visited there?

Are there any language schools you can recommend in Kunming?
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best way to learn Chinese is to take a University teaching job in a small city.

You will only have to work 12 classes a week and lots of people will help you out.

You get a free apartment and more than enough to live on.

When I wanted free Chinese lessons I would just walk outside with my book and so many people would teach me.

There was also many pretty girls who would teach in exchange for a nice dinner. A nice dinner in out town cost about 25rmb for two people. Thats about 3.50 U.S.
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:
Best way to learn Chinese is to take a University teaching job in a small city.

You will only have to work 12 classes a week and lots of people will help you out.

You get a free apartment and more than enough to live on.

When I wanted free Chinese lessons I would just walk outside with my book and so many people would teach me.

There was also many pretty girls who would teach in exchange for a nice dinner. A nice dinner in out town cost about 25rmb for two people. Thats about 3.50 U.S.


This is worth considering. however my experience in korea for my university job is that they always want you to do extra 'special classes' meaning that more time is taken up; do the uni jobs in china tend to be like this?
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pugwall



Joined: 22 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hugekebab wrote: