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moosehead

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject: Oil Spill's consequences in the K Times |
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Mr. Shryock wrote an interesting and informative article about the damage K is doing to itself regarding the imprisonment of the 2 Indian maritime officers:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2009/01/137_37748.html
Oil Spill and Boycott of Korean Products
By Mark Shryock
The imprisonment of the Hebei Spirit's two most senior officers, Master Jasprit Chawla and Syam Chetan, for allowing their ship to be rammed while at safe anchor by a barge owned by Samsung Heavy Industries has infuriated the global maritime community, India, and the world at large.
Calls for a boycott of products from Korea, and especially those produced by Samsung, are now beginning to be heard from across the globe.
The two men, both Indian nationals, have been detained in Korea under house arrest since the worst oil spill in Korea's history occurred in December 2007. Despite being found innocent by a Korean lower court, the Korean prosecution appealed the case and won.
On Dec. 10, Chawla and Chetan were handcuffed and led off to serve a sentence of 18 months and eight months, respectively. They are rapidly becoming international heroes while at the same time Korea grows more and more unpopular.
The irony is that while their case is gaining international momentum on a daily basis, in Korea the imprisonment of Chawla and Chetan has prompted little interest.
But scrutiny of the case should be raised in Korea immediately because it is beginning to damage Korea's public image abroad. There has been much talk lately about branding Korea. Unfortunately, this issue is branding Korea in the worst ways possible.
The shipping world is starting to threaten the halting of all shipments to Korea. This is in addition to an already well-organized movement in the shipping world and India to create a global boycott of Korean goods.
The U.K. newspaper, the Financial Times, recently published an article saying that, ``If the boycott movement grows, Korea will be placed in a very serious situation, as it imports all of its energy from abroad."
Korea should be seriously concerned over this possible scenario. But Korea should also be concerned that at a time of a global financial crisis the international financial media is beginning to print speculation of the possible financial consequences of such boycotts.
I can say personally that I have met with a group of internationally connected bankers who feel this issue is already hurting Korea and has the potential to be catastrophic.
In addition to this, thousands have already gathered in protest rallies in India. Calls for a boycott of Korean products are now numerous and growing daily. This is now spreading beyond just the shipping industry and India, and is beginning to be heard in growing sectors around the world.
The Chosun Ilbo also quoted a Chennai-based member of the Korea Trade-Investment Promotion Agency (KOTRA) as saying,``When you consider the inclinations of the Indian people, the large-scale demonstrations by the Indian sailors' organizations could spark a widespread boycott of Korean goods such as Hyundai cars and Samsung and LG electronics, so the government has to take effective counter-action."
The KOTRA official was quoted as adding, ``If the sailors are not released then Hyundai cars might not be able to come in."
Internationally, Korea is also beginning to look corrupt and vindictive, which is a brand image Korea can ill afford.
Wikipedia states, ``According to Lloyd's List and other media reports, Korean maritime officials, prosecutors and Samsung lawyers have been accused of colluding in the retrial of the two senior officers.''
According to Wikipedia, Robert Giorgi, president of management firm V.Ships told the press he is concerned at recent developments ``which point to collusion.'' He stated this prior to the appeal and also said that he did not feel confident the men would get a fair trial.
The fact that in print all over the world are the words ``efforts of Samsung and prosecutors look to be designed (so) that the master and the chief officers are found guilty on appeal'' should be a cause of great concern.
It means the rest of the world is having extreme difficulty in understanding the verdict arrived at on appeal Dec. 10. Many Koreans are sympathetic to the fisherman and feel someone should be punished regardless of the technical guilt.
Indeed, this may be what drove the prosecutors to retry this case ― and not collusion. I have seen no clear evidence that shows any collusion between Samsung and the prosecutors. But this does not matter.
To much of the rest of the world, this verdict is such a mockery of justice that collusion seems the only plausible answer. Korea needs to understand it can no longer afford this kind of justice and that the cultural need for this kind of justice had better be rethought.
This issue is not going to go away and the longer Korea detains these men, the greater the negative branding is going to be.
I have a master's degree in restoration ecology. My degree and expertise are designed to fix in nature what humans have harmed. Because of my love of the earth, I feel rage and despair over the Taean oil spill.
I understand deeply the grief and anger all Koreans feel over this disaster. I never thought as an ecology writer I would be writing an article that argues for the freedom of anyone connected to something so damaging to the earth.
But the more I looked into the imprisonment of Chawla and Chetan I knew that's what I had to do. They are not responsible for the great wound Korea has suffered over the oil spill. On Dec. 31, I went to the Indian embassy and met with Mrs. Chawla and Mrs. Chetan.
I sat across from them and looked into their tear-filled eyes and promised them I would write this story. But I did not write this story just for them.
I see a great nation, a nation that I have grown to know and love, inflicting great harm upon itself. Let Chawla and Mr Chetan go free and let all of us begin the great work of healing from this deep wound.
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what's interesting to me is this nutjob's comments who just doesn't seem to get it that some people might honestly be interested in fairness for fairness' sake without the necessity of being paid for it!!
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fcia (76.254.66.210) 01-14-2009 10:00
Mark Shryock did not seem to call for boycott of an Somalian products when the same Indian captain was kidnapped/hijacked by them before. Why is this guy getting involved only in this case and advocating boycott. Was he paid and how much and by who? Mark Shryock should disclose his relations with them more honestly. |
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jdog2050

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Wait? Did someone hear a gunshot? Oh, haha, it's just korea shooting itself in the foot again. |
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mindmetoo
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Koreans are going to have to deal with the fact increasing wealth also means they're going to be the bad guys in the third world. It will come as a shock to many when they discover if you erase "Korea" on the signs of third world protesters and wrote "Japan" or "USA" the verb and object can remain unchanged and handed out at the next Korean protest in front of the US or Japan embassies. |
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Guri Guy

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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It's good to see. CRAP (Culturally relative apologist people) on these forums like to trumpet cultural relativism and excuse South Korean's xenophobic and racist behaviour. Well, we can see that their corruption, xenophobia and backwardness when it comes to their legal system is coming back to haunt them. People from around the world see things for what they are in South Korea.
South Korea faces a serious situation where they could lose a huge amount of money and a huge amount of face. Karma
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
Koreans are going to have to deal with the fact increasing wealth also means they're going to be the bad guys in the third world. It will come as a shock to many when they discover if you erase "Korea" on the signs of third world protesters and wrote "Japan" or "USA" the verb and object can remain unchanged and handed out at the next Korean protest in front of the US or Japan embassies. |
"But we are a developing country" (a line pulled out when it serves their purposes). "You should understand our situation."
That crapola is getting really old, Korea. Smell the coffee already. 70% of your economy is based on exports, so wouldn't pulling shit like this be counter-productive?
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jdog2050

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
Koreans are going to have to deal with the fact increasing wealth also means they're going to be the bad guys in the third world. It will come as a shock to many when they discover if you erase "Korea" on the signs of third world protesters and wrote "Japan" or "USA" the verb and object can remain unchanged and handed out at the next Korean protest in front of the US or Japan embassies. |
You say this as though something fundamentally wrong *didn't* just happen. |
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Pojogae
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: Oil Spill's consequences in the K Times |
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moosehead wrote: |
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fcia (76.254.66.210) 01-14-2009 10:00
Mark Shryock did not seem to call for boycott of an Somalian products when the same Indian captain was kidnapped/hijacked by them before. Why is this guy getting involved only in this case and advocating boycott. Was he paid and how much and by who? Mark Shryock should disclose his relations with them more honestly. |
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I think a boycott on the exporting powerhouse of Somalia would be largely ineffective, but what the hell, if it will appease this idiot's sense of logic then let's call for one against them as well. Did this captain get abducted by pirates before this incident? If so the high seas aren't being too kind to him.
Would this same article be printed in the newspaper's Korean version?
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Guri Guy

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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If South Korea wants to be compared to terrorist Somalian pirates then it's all good.  |
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Ethan Allen Hawley

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Mr Mark Shryock,
That was an exceptionally well written opinion piece, referring to all unfortunate aspects of this case as it relates to, and could come back to haunt, South Korea. Well done!
Does anyone have any updated news on the two jailed sailors? Are they still in country or have they got out of Dodge real quick? |
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prairiemaker
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: Update and thanks from the Hebie men and family |
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I spoke with Captain Chawla and his wife and Mr. Chetan and his wife last night. They are out of jail and waiting on the higher appeal case. They cannot leave the country. We were discussing other things and did not ask them much, but will get more information Monday.
They have asked me repeatedly to thank everyone involved and how much hope you all give them in your support. They, the Indian Embassy, and family members and friends, have all read these threads. They are deeply moved to see how many have became involved in this and offered support. I also deeply thank everyone who has helped with this. I hope you will continue to support them as the higher appeal still remains.
I want to thank Korea Times for printing the above Hebei article, as well as the front page article, along with Mike Been's earlier article and yesterday�s article. Korea Times seems especially committed to covering this event, and for that matter any injustice regardless of the political cost and needs to be commended for doing so.
Thanks should also go to the Korean Herald and Chosun Iblo for their excellent coverage. Without all three of these newspapers coverage, and the time and support of everyone here on Dave�s, it is unlikely Mr. Chawla and Mr. Chetan would be free on bail. In a few short days this issue gained a voice in Korea that was, and still is, critically needed. Every voice counted and still counts. |
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mindmetoo
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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jdog2050 wrote: |
mindmetoo wrote: |
Koreans are going to have to deal with the fact increasing wealth also means they're going to be the bad guys in the third world. It will come as a shock to many when they discover if you erase "Korea" on the signs of third world protesters and wrote "Japan" or "USA" the verb and object can remain unchanged and handed out at the next Korean protest in front of the US or Japan embassies. |
You say this as though something fundamentally wrong *didn't* just happen. |
I don't. |
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SHANE02

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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In the end, these guys are going to have to accept some sort of punishment just to let the Koreans save face. Sucks i know, but that's what will happen. |
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GoldMember
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Mark, you are a great humanitarian, and a damm decent bloke. Well done! |
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mindmetoo
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:26 am Post subject: |
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SHANE02 wrote: |
In the end, these guys are going to have to accept some sort of punishment just to let the Koreans save face. Sucks i know, but that's what will happen. |
A good prediction. |
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michaelambling
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:44 am Post subject: Re: Update and thanks from the Hebie men and family |
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prairiemaker wrote: |
I spoke with Captain Chawla and his wife and Mr. Chetan and his wife last night. They are out of jail and waiting on the higher appeal case. They cannot leave the country. We were discussing other things and did not ask them much, but will get more information Monday.
They have asked me repeatedly to thank everyone involved and how much hope you all give them in your support. They, the Indian Embassy, and family members and friends, have all read these threads. They are deeply moved to see how many have became involved in this and offered support. I also deeply thank everyone who has helped with this. I hope you will continue to support them as the higher appeal still remains.
I want to thank Korea Times for printing the above Hebei article, as well as the front page article, along with Mike Been's earlier article and yesterday�s article. Korea Times seems especially committed to covering this event, and for that matter any injustice regardless of the political cost and needs to be commended for doing so.
Thanks should also go to the Korean Herald and Chosun Iblo for their excellent coverage. Without all three of these newspapers coverage, and the time and support of everyone here on Dave�s, it is unlikely Mr. Chawla and Mr. Chetan would be free on bail. In a few short days this issue gained a voice in Korea that was, and still is, critically needed. Every voice counted and still counts. |
I am very happy to hear this and I wish them the best. Ex-pats are always vulnerable, as humans tend to group up against the odd one out, but what has happened to these two men is absurd and surreal. I only hope they are able to get out of Korea soon, and that someone in Korea gets the sense in their head to apologize profusely and compensate these men for what they've gone through. |
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