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sarbonn

Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:09 pm Post subject: Door to door religious conversion |
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I answered my door this morning, and two women were there to talk to me about what I thought was some apartment issue. First, it sounded like one of them needed to inspect something in my apartment. It wasn't quite clear, and then after a bit of broken conversation, I discovered that they were there to discuss their religion.
Now, in the states, I tended to usually just politely close my door to religious door to door people, but something about these two attractive women intrigued me (it could be that they were both attractive, but I digress). Anyway, so as I listened to their conversation, in very broken English, they were somehow telling me that they represented a Christian religion that worshipped the God Mother. Okay, I was kind of intrigued here. I'd heard of Mary worshippers, but this didn't sound that way. They went on and on in broken English about certain passages from the Bible, and after awhile I caught on. Every time the Bible mentioned a female pronoun, THAT was an indication of the "secret" God Mother the Bible was REALLY talking about.
Then they read from huge sections of Revelations, and it was there that I realized I'd heard all of this before. They were practically quoting entire doctrines of St. Augustine in The City of God. Sprinkle in a little Thomas Aquinas, and you had their entire argument, sans the God Mother part. So, I mentioned this, and of course, they'd never heard of Augustine or The City of God. So they continued on and on. So I decided I'd tell them all about these two important historical figures and their contributions to the Christian Church.
It ended up being one of the most bizarre conversations I've had that only seemed to be interrupted with their immediate need to "bring me" to their church, located somewhere in Korea. Well, I had to work today, so that wasn't going to happen, but they kept bringing out more and more pieces of broken scripture that they had to read to me, none of it making any more sense than the last bit they read. It was then when I actually read through their book (in Korean and both English) that it had to be translated by someone who had as much knowledge of Korean as I did, because the English part of it read something like "And so He-ith that taken in the chosen chalice of imbibement to the Monkey God of Happiness, makest the tree grown in the desert of Hebrewness."
Well, I had to head off to work, but I have a feeling they're going to show up again. |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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There's a Jehovahs guy that visits me every couple of weeks. I don't really mind because he's a pleasant enough chap. Infuriatingly un-curious about anything non-jeho, though.
Best part is, he often brings around the young female disciples.  |
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aphase
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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is that the cult that worships the ajumma? |
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Fredbob

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: Yongin-Breathing the air-sometimes
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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My wife made the mistake of answering one of these types of people's surveys, me with a general split or nocturnal schedule, now, AT LEAST once a day there's a knock on the door, I've tried every tactic, but they send a new person or two each time, I've even intentionally gotten out of the shower and answered in a not so big towel, think that might have backfired. NEXT PLAN, gonna blast a porno at full volume, I need to find a loud scene that incorporates the words God and or Jesus a few million times.- OK, I might not do that, just a bit grumpy having stayed up all night to watch the Eagles game, just to get woken up at 11, fell asleep with the TV on, they had to have heard me turn off the sound and I never answered for the eternal 2 minutes during which they kept knocking on the door. |
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MissT
Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Every time the Bible mentioned a female pronoun, THAT was an indication of the "secret" God Mother the Bible was REALLY talking about. |
The same thing happened to my husband and I. We were on a flight to France from Korea. Some very young college students approached us and wanted to talk about the Bible. They kept on going on about the 'secret message in the bible' about god being a woman. I kind of felt sorry for them. They were going to France to convert people by telling them about this secret message in the Bible.... I kept wondering why Korea was sending young and uneducated students to France to 'civilize' them. |
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Location: Paradise
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: Door to door religious conversion |
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sarbonn wrote: |
I answered my door this morning, and two women were there to talk to me about what I thought was some apartment issue. First, it sounded like one of them needed to inspect something in my apartment. It wasn't quite clear, and then after a bit of broken conversation, I discovered that they were there to discuss their religion.
Now, in the states, I tended to usually just politely close my door to religious door to door people, but something about these two attractive women intrigued me (it could be that they were both attractive, but I digress). Anyway, so as I listened to their conversation, in very broken English, they were somehow telling me that they represented a Christian religion that worshipped the God Mother. Okay, I was kind of intrigued here. I'd heard of Mary worshippers, but this didn't sound that way. They went on and on in broken English about certain passages from the Bible, and after awhile I caught on. Every time the Bible mentioned a female pronoun, THAT was an indication of the "secret" God Mother the Bible was REALLY talking about.
Then they read from huge sections of Revelations, and it was there that I realized I'd heard all of this before. They were practically quoting entire doctrines of St. Augustine in The City of God. Sprinkle in a little Thomas Aquinas, and you had their entire argument, sans the God Mother part. So, I mentioned this, and of course, they'd never heard of Augustine or The City of God. So they continued on and on. So I decided I'd tell them all about these two important historical figures and their contributions to the Christian Church.
It ended up being one of the most bizarre conversations I've had that only seemed to be interrupted with their immediate need to "bring me" to their church, located somewhere in Korea. Well, I had to work today, so that wasn't going to happen, but they kept bringing out more and more pieces of broken scripture that they had to read to me, none of it making any more sense than the last bit they read. It was then when I actually read through their book (in Korean and both English) that it had to be translated by someone who had as much knowledge of Korean as I did, because the English part of it read something like "And so He-ith that taken in the chosen chalice of imbibement to the Monkey God of Happiness, makest the tree grown in the desert of Hebrewness."
Well, I had to head off to work, but I have a feeling they're going to show up again. |
That actually sounds like a fun way to spend half an hour or so, especially if they're cute.
Why does Christianity seem to be so big in Korea, whereas it didn't take to Japan, China, or most Asian countries? |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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I answer the door shirtless. It makes them super uncomfortable. I've even had some jehovah's witnesses hide behind the door so they couldn't see the foreigner's pink nipples. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Two women show up at my door? There's only one thing to do; invite them in and pursue every man's fantasy.  |
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Ed Provencher
Joined: 15 Oct 2006
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:24 am Post subject: |
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I've experienced a few of these kinds of encounters with true believers. Can anyone here translate the bumper sticker "A man needs Jesus like a fish needs a bicycle" into Korean? I'd like to have that one ready for the next witness. |
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Guri Guy

Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Why does Christianity seem to be so big in Korea, whereas it didn't take to Japan, China, or most Asian countries? |
I think anything that is extreme goes over well in the Koreas.
Let's see...
the South Korean flag is Taegukki - which means "great extremes"
South Korea has extreme Capitalism with the Chaebols
North Korea has extreme Communism (kind of like a Monarchal Communism)
South Korean children have extreme schedules (least amount of sleep in developed countries)
South Korean workers have the most extreme work schedule (most work hours per week in the developed world)
One of the highest suicide and divorce rates in the world
Nothing is ever done half assed here. It's balls to the wall or nothing.
Extreme Christian missionaries seem to be the norm here.  |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:25 am Post subject: |
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aphase wrote: |
is that the cult that worships the ajumma? |
Yep, innocent approach, God Mother, targetting foreigners, sending hot chicks, that's them all right. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:29 am Post subject: Re: Door to door religious conversion |
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michaelambling wrote: |
Why does Christianity seem to be so big in Korea, whereas it didn't take to Japan, China, or most Asian countries? |
Keep in mind their culture was scraped down to nothing over half a century, after which it was demolished. The South coped by wrapping their legs around any messiah, prophet, or fortune-teller who was thrown their way. The North coped by putting total faith in some dictators. I'd liken the North's system to more of a state religion, which sounds pretty much like what Guri Guy calls monarchal communism. Basically humans as gods, same as the God Mother or whatever she's officially called. |
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jdog2050

Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:46 am Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
aphase wrote: |
is that the cult that worships the ajumma? |
Yep, innocent approach, God Mother, targetting foreigners, sending hot chicks, that's them all right. |
I've had discussions with these people before. They really don't seem to know their scripture; what they're using are pretty cherry-picked quotes...even more than your usual cult..
How did the OP figure out it was Thomas Aquinas? |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:53 am Post subject: |
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jdog2050 wrote: |
RACETRAITOR wrote: |
aphase wrote: |
is that the cult that worships the ajumma? |
Yep, innocent approach, God Mother, targetting foreigners, sending hot chicks, that's them all right. |
I've had discussions with these people before. They really don't seem to know their scripture; what they're using are pretty cherry-picked quotes...even more than your usual cult..
How did the OP figure out it was Thomas Aquinas? |
Did you ever take their survey? Funny stuff. It would probably even make Rteacher laugh in disbelief. |
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merkurix
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Location: Not far from the deep end.
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