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Would you work overtime for 7,000 won an hour?
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Soju808



Joined: 25 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:12 am    Post subject: Would you work overtime for 7,000 won an hour? Reply with quote

I was looking over my new contract and I saw that my local city hall edited the GEPIK contract on the overtime hours. My contract is offering me a pathetic 7,000 won an hour to teach overtime.

However, I did renew my contract with my school because I got a raise in pay, and I'm very comfortable where I live and I don't want to leave my students. But if my school wants me to work overtime, I'm gonna say no.
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asams



Joined: 17 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's ridiculous....

sorry, no help. i wouldn't do it, and neither should you. i guess they figure you'll never work overtime cause no one would be that stupid
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owch, no.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That clause is in most PS contracts. It is for NON-teaching overtime and I have never once heard of it being used. You will get 20k minimum for extra classes over the 22 and outside of 8.30 till 4.30.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kinda makes you wonder why they put it in there to begin with...
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
That clause is in most PS contracts. It is for NON-teaching overtime and I have never once heard of it being used. You will get 20k minimum for extra classes over the 22 and outside of 8.30 till 4.30.


Are you sure?

OP, what is the exact clause?
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Jammer113



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My contract has a clause, too, for non teaching overtime at 7000 per hour. However, the op said that his city changed his contract. Op, if your contract has the same mandatory overtime clause as everyone else's, you don't get to say no to overtime (up to 28 hours of teaching). Please post your exact clause, though, so we can see.
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Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Common here Reply with quote

Jammer113 wrote:
.....However, the op said that his city changed his contract....


Contracts are not the legal instruments here that they are back in, say, the USA. Contracts in Korea are commonly changed. They're like a lot of things here--for 'looks' only.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote"wylies99"]
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
That clause is in most PS contracts. It is for NON-teaching overtime and I have never once heard of it being used. You will get 20k minimum for extra classes over the 22 and outside of 8.30 till 4.30.


Are you sure?

OP, what is the exact clause?[/quote]

In my '09 EPIK contract.

Article 8 (Work Hours) 4. Employer may require Employee to work overtime in addition to normal work days and work hours. In this case, overtime will be provided(6000 won/hour)
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maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: . Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote :

Kinda makes you wonder why they put it in there to begin with...



not kind at all
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dean_burrito



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i once got the 7,000 won for going with teachers to drink 15,000 won cups of coffee at some ritzy place. this from a school who didn't have money to buy me any resource books for last semester.
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iiicalypso



Joined: 13 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is my understanding that the 7000 won rate is the same one given to the Korean teachers for their non-teaching activities. I work in a GEPIK high school, and the Korean teachers are responsible for babysitting ("supervising independent study) until 10 or 11 pm once every week or two. I asked my co-teacher how much he gets paid for that and he said 7000 won an hour.

My immediate reaction (after feeling pity for any so-called professional who will accept those terms) was that this is just a clause brought over from the terms of the Korean teachers arrangements. Since in two years I haven't been asked to do anything like this, I am going to let it slide. They don't trust me with a key to the copy room; I doubt they would trust me with a room full of sleeping students.
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antoniothegreat



Joined: 28 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is quite curious, as it is illegal for us to be in a classroom without a KT (obviously this happens anyways) so they would not need us to do any test overseeing, as a KT would have to be paid anyways.

Of course, any teaching we do would be paid more, so what in the world would they expect us to be doing?

class prep? I know most of the upper big whigs think the KTs do all the prep and we just stand on the side, so they wouldnt imagine us doing that.
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Pink Freud



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At many National universities the Korean and foreign faculty are paid W6,000 hour for teaching more than their base contracted hours. For a K prof, this would be 9-12 hours/week and almost never exceeded. For a foreign faculty member this is more likely 16 hours/week with forced overtime of up to 4 hours a week. the forced overtime is becoming less common though, I hear.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iiicalypso wrote:
It is my understanding that the 7000 won rate is the same one given to the Korean teachers for their non-teaching activities. I work in a GEPIK high school, and the Korean teachers are responsible for babysitting ("supervising independent study) until 10 or 11 pm once every week or two. I asked my co-teacher how much he gets paid for that and he said 7000 won an hour.

My immediate reaction (after feeling pity for any so-called professional who will accept those terms) was that this is just a clause brought over from the terms of the Korean teachers arrangements. Since in two years I haven't been asked to do anything like this, I am going to let it slide. They don't trust me with a key to the copy room; I doubt they would trust me with a room full of sleeping students.


Interesting.
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