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Whistleblower

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: Korean Students, Jackets & My Rambling |
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I have been teaching middle school students for the past few weeks and the first time teaching young learners for about a year and a half but the one thing that I have noticed is that students keep their jackets on during the class.
Now I know Koreans prefer to wear their jackets in doors but I have found it rather annoying when these Korean middle school students wear their jackets during the class.
I have been trying to teach students that if they wear jackets in doors it is rather rude towards Europeans and North Americans as it shows a lack of any interest in the class. So far the students have been taking their jackets off from time to time but only after I ask them.
So far, I have been able to deter students from speaking Korean during the class but there is one particular class that is completely silent if I ask them a question.
I would like to know if anyone has any ideas to get students to react if they are spoken to in Korean. So far, I have tried the reversed pyschology tactic, bad habit part on the whiteboard, etc but so far this highly embarrased group of students have not really been that reactive so if anyone has anymore ideas about this would be great.
Unfortunately, some of the students still are learning the old way of learning English (translation from Korean to English) and unfortunately this creates a bit of silence during a conversation but I have been able to weed out the poor Konglish/English expressions by using part of the whiteboard and writing down "Bad English" expressions such as; "so-so", "fine", "Teacher, do 'A'?", etc.
So anymore ideas to get students chatting. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| Crank up the heat. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| Follow your nose. |
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BigBuds

Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Location: Changwon
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:08 am Post subject: |
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I've got a similar problem with them not taking their jackets off but they then complain about the heat and ask me to turn the heating system off.
I just sit their and look at them for a couple of seconds, and then tell them to take their jackets off, and then if it's still too hot I'll turn it off. Of coarse, they complain about that and then only half of them take their jackets off. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| Jackets make noise. Other than that, I couldn't give a rat's arse. Some kid had the window opened this week and I promptly went over and closed it saying "It's winter and the heater's on." |
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Rusty Shackleford
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| I could never understand the jacket thing as a kid. How is it rude or disrespectful? I don't mind, but if they complain about being too hot I make savage unmerciful example. |
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sarbonn

Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| BigBuds wrote: |
I've got a similar problem with them not taking their jackets off but they then complain about the heat and ask me to turn the heating system off.
I just sit their and look at them for a couple of seconds, and then tell them to take their jackets off, and then if it's still too hot I'll turn it off. Of coarse, they complain about that and then only half of them take their jackets off. |
I get this same problem. I don't care if they wear jackets, but as a teacher I don't get that same luxury. And sometimes those classrooms are freaking freezing. Yet, they won't take off their jackets. And THEN, they want me to turn off the heat because it's too hot. That's usually the deal breaker right there. They'll keep their jackets on and let everyone else freeze, and have no problems demanding the heat be turned off because it's too hot. |
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Tjames426
Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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The jackets don't bother me. Some of the boys keep their hats on, that bothers me more. However....
My school cranks up the heat. I have a group of young germ spewing students crammed into a room the size of a shoe box. It is not the heat that concerns me in the classroom. It is the "air quality".
I often have the window open at one end of the classroom with the door open at the other. These little germ carriers already have given me something worse than a cold once this winter; I need some fresh air. |
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I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think they should have any trouble understanding the jacket thing. I know Koreans tend to keep their coats on far more often than Westerners, but it can't be an entirely foreign concept, because my Korean co-teachers demand that coats come off during class. One even starts a stack at the back of the classroom.
There's too much nonsense that goes on with the coats, otherwise I don't mind. But with an all boys middle school with coats that almost all look alike (shiny, puffy, etc.) there's too much "Teacher my coat! He steal!" or slapping each other in the face with the sleeves, using them to hog-tie a smaller student, etc. They're just one more distraction.
That having been said, when my school is having a less-than-generous day with my centrally controlled heater, I'm not making the students remove their coats.
Re: Getting them to talk. This is a gamble, but if you've got faith in your ability to keep the reins on your classes, it's best (I've found) to do something that's student oriented most of the time. Some open ended assignment where they have to write personal answers in English. This gets them motivated to actually figure out a way to say something in English (who doesn't love talking about themselves in middle school?).
Honestly, this is one of the best things I've found for my middle school kids: http://www.grammarmancomic.com/templates.html
You can also have them make their own comics after. I usually bring in a few English language comic books to show them first, which gets them buzzing. I would NOT try this with an over-excitable class, but it has worked absolute wonders for my clammed-shut classes. And usually after you get a class going for the first time, they're not ever as quiet as they were in the beginning again.
Anyway, good luck. Sorry for rambling, etc. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

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