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agbonlahor i love you



Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Location: Villa Park

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:43 am    Post subject: tax on sending money back to uk Reply with quote

how much money can you legally send back each month or year without having to declare it and therefor having to pay tax?

all help would be appreciated.

cheers
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FreedomOffshore



Joined: 26 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:59 pm    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

If I were you I would go to an HSBC branch in Seoul after contacting
HSBC in Singapore and ask the HSBC branch in Seoul to help you with
setting up an HSBC account in Singapore. Send your money there and
when you return to the U.K. you can draw it out from the ATM with the
debit card they give to you.


Just my opinion, FREEDOM
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sobriquet



Joined: 16 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you pay your tax here as much as you like
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Davew125



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my first job we were paid in cash and i was sending back over 1000 pounds a month to my HSBC account in the UK and (as far as i know) all is fine. I'm pretty sure that if you are paying tax here then you dont have to pay tax in the UK as well. Probably best to check the inland revenue website though.
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agbonlahor i love you



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the responses guys. appreciated
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: tax on sending money back to uk Reply with quote

agbonlahor i love you wrote:
how much money can you legally send back each month or year without having to declare it and therefor having to pay tax?

all help would be appreciated.

cheers


You have to be out of the UK for one complete tax year. unfortunately that means within the confines of the arbitrarily chosen tax period. so if you come to Korea in march '09 you will have to leave Korea after April 2010 (end of the tax year) if you go back before then you are liable to tax off all your earnings as you would be in the UK minus any tax you paid in Korea. its more complicated than this and there are exceptions. only way to be sure is ask the revenue (I wouldn't do this) or speak to an accountant. or don't tell the rev you are working abroad and keep the money offshore or even inshore relying on the good old fashioned inefficiency of the inland revenue. Whatever happens, don't let the *unts get your cash; you ain't in the UK and shouldn't be paying tax imo.

Best thing to do is not listen to anyone on a forum and see an accountant.

Fucking Britain.
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janettekrankie



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently found out that not only do you have to be out of the UK for the full tax year but you have to be employed too, so I'm looking into extending my contract for a bit. Of course, when you fill in the form to declare yourself a non-UK tax resident, they don't specify this. You do things by the bloody book and you can get burnt - f'ing Britain indeed.
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agbonlahor i love you



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

huge kebab, jeanette crankie - thanks for your posts. Basically my problem is as follows. I need to send some money back for bills and a few savings each month - not much just 200 - 300 quid. Anyhow, my bank account doesn't allow me to send money to it internationally, I'm most likely unable to upgrade my bank account to get a ISBN number because my credit refernce is f**ked. SO what i'm planning to do is send the cash to my mom's account then she'll transfer it straight to my basic bank account. My mom is concerned that if in the worst case scenario the snakes at inland revenue decide to see the � coming in from abroad, assume it's an income, then proceed to tax all her ingoings in her bank account. I think i'll ring an accountant aswell - but your input would be appreciated also.

nice one
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sobriquet



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard of a bank account that won't accept remittance.
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agbonlahor i love you



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sobriquet wrote:
I've never heard of a bank account that won't accept remittance.


I set-up a basic cash card account with barclays bank - when i rang through to set up my internet banking - I asked for the ISBN or Swift number - when the applications worker tried to find that for me she read from the computer screen that it is not possible to obtain a ISBN number for a barclays basic cash card account. I was suprised so referred it to her senior who confirmed this is the case.
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hugekebab



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically...

Are you out of the country for a full tax year april to april? if so then you don't have to worry about your income being taxed.

Your mum won't have to worry because she can demonstrate that a. the money is coming from you and b. she is paying off your bills with that money so that's not income.

Either way theres no need to worry too much, the revenue does not have the resources to go through peoples bank accounts; only people under serious investigation would end up having to show their bank accounts to the revenue.

But I'm not an accountant, so for peace of mind get you rmum to go and see an accountant in the UK.

The reason that full tax year is there is because of the non doms taking the piss.
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GB



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hugekebab is right, you have to be out of the UK for a full tax year. However...this brings in other problems as once you have been out of the country for 1 full year, you are classed as non-resident and this affects your NHS treatment. I found this out, being told I would have to pay to see my family doctor!!!! My medical records had been moved and sent back to the central office and I found I was no longer registered with the family doctor.

This all happened when I returned to the UK last year. The rules are V.complicated to say the least. I have learnt that the less said to officials the better.
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agbonlahor i love you



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hugekebab, GB - thanks for the help. much obliged
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sobriquet



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GB wrote:
Hugekebab is right, you have to be out of the UK for a full tax year. However...this brings in other problems as once you have been out of the country for 1 full year, you are classed as non-resident and this affects your NHS treatment. I found this out, being told I would have to pay to see my family doctor!!!! My medical records had been moved and sent back to the central office and I found I was no longer registered with the family doctor.

This all happened when I returned to the UK last year. The rules are V.complicated to say the least. I have learnt that the less said to officials the better.


You get 5 years that you don't have to pay NI but after that you either back pay or cough up for it.

Best advice I got over this was if it comes down to you being out of the country and them claiming that you are non-resident is to show that you only ever had 1 year visas and that it was a temporary arrangement.

As long as you were out for the complete tax year you're good on the tax.

What bugs me is that nobody knows how to make out social/national health payments that we make in Korea go towards our UK NI payments even though we are elligible to do it. Pisses me off no end.
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shifty



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not from the UK but I would guess that my country's tax rules are similar. As Hugekebab says you have to be specifically out of the country from April to end of March.

If you have other dates you will straddle two seperate tax years. So the tax authorities will have two years to play with.. Let's say you kick off in Korea the 1st of May and head home end of April. It'll mean you're liable for 11 months of Korean income for the one tax year and one month's worth in the subsequent.

This assessment of that April's income can be avoided if you depart again and can prove that you've been out of the country for a certain number of days in the tax year, I think it's about 6 months, though it's counted in days and not months. The first year's dues are anavoidable, unless you can dovetail the Korean stint precisely with the tax year dates.

So the worst case scenario is as stated first and without leaving again in the subsequent tax year.
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