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spikem



Joined: 20 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:00 pm    Post subject: Considering move to S Korea to teach english Reply with quote

Hey,

I'm a recent college grad with a BA in International Relations from a good private university. I didn't get to go abroad during college and I recently quit the job that I got right after graduating.

I have no interest in getting another job in the US. My brother (living in Beijing) recently suggested teaching in South Korea and his girlfriend (who did a year Fullbright in Korea) has some contacts in Seoul. I spent a year abroad in high school in Italy. I have no teaching experience but imagine I would enjoy it. I've always been a heavy reader and have a long background in theater (meaning I feel comfortable in front of people).

I'm wondering the ins and outs of getting a job once I get to Korea. How difficult it would be to get a job teaching if my original job application falls through. What to expect from Korean people and the difficulties of teaching elementary school Korean kids.
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Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: What it's like Reply with quote

The first thing to do is pull up a chair and start reading the innumerable threads and posts here. That will give you an idea as to what it's like to live and work in the land of sparkles. You'll also get a heads-up on what to bring with you if and when you do come here.

Let me think out loud here, and I hope you don't take it personally. You say you're a recent college grad and you've recently quit your job, a job you got after graduating. I wonder if this is a sign that you will have problems here. If you quit because somebody pissed you off at that job, well....maybe you should consider some other country. But that's just my opinion. Again, I'm not trying to be a smartass. Just a realist.

Know that the peninsula gets rather cold for its latitude. This, coupled with the won's taking a dump of late, would make me think twice about coming here now if I were indeed considering it. There are better-paying (in dollars) ESL jobs out there, and many of these gigs are in warmer climes.

Your background in theater will come in handy. You'll have to be a good actor and play the pretend game all too often if you come to SK. Here, perceptions, not substance, rules.

I'm about to finish up my second year here. I still like Korea overall, but, as with every place, there are little things I find annoying that I definitely won't miss when I fly the coop.

Good luck.
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afsjesse



Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read the forums to get a clue on what your getting yourself into before you catch the next rocketship to Planet Korea!!!!

Some things you should consider:

1. Do you want to work in a Public School or a Hagwon (Private School)?
I reccomend Public schools.

2. Which recruiting service will you use? I think ESL PLANET is the best.

3. What are you goals? If its the money, go somewhere else, Korea is not the bling bling place it used to be. If its culture, than your in for a load of surprises.

4. When will you come? Public Schools are hiring for March now, and they do so in September also. Hagwons hire year round.

Good Luck,
Jesse
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to Japan or anywhere else to teach; come to korea to entertain. Confused
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Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Or to be Reply with quote

I-am-me wrote:
Go to Japan or anywhere else to teach; come to korea to entertain.


Come to Korea to entertain and be entertained. I should write a novellette based on what I've seen here.
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oldtactics



Joined: 18 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

check out a few of the blogs on the korean blog list, they should give you a pretty good idea of what it's like to teach/live here.

www.koreanbloglist.com
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure who would quit a job they got back home in this economy. I sense trouble in the real world, but you might be a whiz at ESL.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the faltering South Korean economy, try to work in Taiwan or even mainland China.

The economy will probably only get worse so really consider the probably continual decline before coming.

Right now, teachers in China are only making a little less than teachers in Korea. If the Korean economy continues to decline as predicted, then teachers in China could end up making more.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Under 25
No experience
Unrelated degree
Not averse to providing entertainment no matter the actual job description
A pulse

OP, you're a PERFECT candidate for an ESL teaching job in Korea.

Your best bet is to pepper every single recruiter and job board out there with your CV. Also, get in clean-cut mode and get a few pictures taken.

Don't worry about your qualifications; Koreans aren't paying enough to recruit qualified teachers and they know it.
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spikem



Joined: 20 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses all.

First of all, I quit my job back in October. I quit because it wasn't even remotely related to anything I would ever want to do and I hated it. I realize it was a pretty stupid time to do so but I can't say I've regretted it.

Secondly, I have applied to work in an elementary school that is connected to a university in Seoul.

It seems that theres a certain cynicism about a green teacher coming to teach in Korea (though perhaps it is just because I am new to this community). I had gained the impression that Korea was a great place to teach english due to higher salaries, less stringent requirements and a good culture. Am I wrong?
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greedy_bones



Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Location: not quite sure anymore

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spikem wrote:
Thanks for the responses all.

It seems that theres a certain cynicism about a green teacher coming to teach in Korea (though perhaps it is just because I am new to this community).


There is a lot of cynicism about working in Korea, but overall, I think it's worth it. There are horror stories, but I'd venture to say that most experiences are tolerable ones. I've worked for several hagwons and was only ripped off once after working for one school for a year and two months. This had more to do with the new management and a few other factors. And I wasn't even ripped off too badly. There are some horror stories, but most of these can be avoided by adequately researching your school before you start.


spikem wrote:
I had gained the impression that Korea was a great place to teach english due to higher salaries, less stringent requirements and a good culture. Am I wrong?


Some of these things are true, but not all of them. You can for the most part make more money in Korea than you can in Japan, China or Taiwan, but that depends on a few important factors. Right now, the Won is worth considerably less than it once was. So, if you plan on sending a lot of money home, Korea is falling in comparison to other countries whose currencies are much better off. However, the cost of living hasn't been affected to much by the falling won. Some things now cost more, but most of these are imported goods, and the price hasn't risen anywhere near the level that the won has fallen. It's pretty easy to save half of your salary while living pretty comfortably.

The less stringent requirements is true, but the good culture is highly debatable. There are a few aspects of the culture which are nice, but there are some which are terrible. A few parts that don't jive well with westerners are Xenophobia, dishonesty, image over substance, and the strict adherence to Confucianism.

All of the negative things aside, it is a worthwhile experience teaching in Korea. You can live quite comfortably, teaching is for the most part enjoyable, and Korea is in a good location for visiting other places during your vacations. Also, if you enjoy nightlife, Korea has some pretty interesting things to do.
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the ireland



Joined: 11 May 2008
Location: korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

take everything you see here with a pinch of salt, people just seem to love complaining on this site. I had a great time in Korea, obviously I had a few "what the hell is that about?" times but i get them back home too.

In your first post you mentioned finding a job when you get here...forget it, do it legally. get hired by a school at home then get your documents sorted out and get your visa from back home, don't try and teach illegally, and any school that allows you to do so will prob end up screwing you over in the long run.

Enjoy your time in Korea, it's a great place to be for a while!!
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojusucks wrote:
With the faltering South Korean economy, try to work in Taiwan or even mainland China.

The economy will probably only get worse so really consider the probably continual decline before coming.

Right now, teachers in China are only making a little less than teachers in Korea. If the Korean economy continues to decline as predicted, then teachers in China could end up making more.



Don't believe this as most jobs in china pay under 1000 U.S. a month. China is a lot more fun and interesting but you make a lot less. I also spend less in Korea than I did in China.
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Bucheonguy



Joined: 23 Oct 2008
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't come here for the work. The money is not worth it all. Secondly, the job isn't rewarding. If you take the job seriously then you're going to crack, slit your wrists or just bail and go home.

Come here for other things. Come here because if you get a decent job, you'll have lots of spare time. It's also lets you see the rest of the continent relatively cheaply.

Honestly though, if you think the job will be good or the pay will be good, go somewhere else. I'm mostly just here for the social life now. The work environment is just fucking hell though.
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spikem



Joined: 20 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:
sojusucks wrote:
With the faltering South Korean economy, try to work in Taiwan or even mainland China.

The economy will probably only get worse so really consider the probably continual decline before coming.

Right now, teachers in China are only making a little less than teachers in Korea. If the Korean economy continues to decline as predicted, then teachers in China could end up making more.



Don't believe this as most jobs in china pay under 1000 U.S. a month. China is a lot more fun and interesting but you make a lot less. I also spend less in Korea than I did in China.


My brother has lived in Beijing for a few years now and I didn't want to follow exactly in his footsteps.

I'm going partially to have a good home base that will allow me to see the rest of South East Asia.

Everyone is on vacation right now correct?
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