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OiGirl

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Darn it...I can no longer eat on the streets. Even when I am back in the US! How liberating it must be to not give a damn about cultural norms of what people think of you and the group of foreigners you represent. |
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Blue Flower
Joined: 23 Feb 2003 Location: The realisation that I only have to endure two more weeks in this filthy, perverted, nasty place!
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:23 am Post subject: |
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Corporal wrote: |
If Koreans can chaw on dried squid in the middle of a movie, whilst laughing and yacking on cell phones and thereby blowing squiddy breath all over the place to stink up the entire theater, you can damn well eat whatever you want on the subway, I say.  |
Totally. Nothing smells worse than squid. It's just vile. Well maybe a rotten carcass, but still, it's putrid.
I eat on the subway, I eat walking down the street, but then i don't do the two hands thing when i give/receive money either. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:40 am Post subject: yes |
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When in Rome huh?
So if in Rome, people walked on their hands and burgers eat people, you'd go along with it? You call it cultural sensitivity, I call it blind obedience. |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:18 am Post subject: |
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I had never thought about eating on a bus. On a local bus there is no reason, but on the long haul busses I sometimes carry something to eat, as the terminal food may, in fact, prove to be terminal. Anyway, on the last trip I went on, with a couple of Korean students, we got hungry on the bus as we waited in yet another terminal. I pulled out a bag of nuts and passed them to my friends. A korean gent in the next row looked on so I offered him some. He became an instant friend to all of us. For me the prevailing ethic was that of sharing. He sure didn't wait to get off the bus to eat them. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Blue Flower wrote: |
Corporal wrote: |
If Koreans can chaw on dried squid in the middle of a movie, whilst laughing and yacking on cell phones and thereby blowing squiddy breath all over the place to stink up the entire theater, you can damn well eat whatever you want on the subway, I say.  |
Totally. Nothing smells worse than squid. It's just vile. Well maybe a rotten carcass, but still, it's putrid.
I eat on the subway, I eat walking down the street, but then i don't do the two hands thing when i give/receive money either. |
Here's were we differ, darlin'. I looove the smell of squid (though it's far too chewy during meal time, can ya dig?), and care not for its consumption in movie theaters.
And I'll reiterrate (irritate?), why do so many darn western folk find the undeniable NEED to eat while commuting? Can't you wait until you get home or are somewhere where it's appropriate (table, napkins, etc.) to eat? I heard that the number of auto accidents related to eating while driving has surpassed the number related to driving and talking on a cell phone.
And people get annoyed at smokers and their dumb habits.
Voracious eaters are equally unpleasant; and more likely to die earlier.
People R dum.
Sparkles*_* |
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wylde

Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:32 am Post subject: |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
And I'll reiterrate (irritate?), why do so many darn western folk find the undeniable NEED to eat while commuting? Can't you wait until you get home or are somewhere where it's appropriate (table, napkins, etc.) to eat?
Sparkles*_* |
for me, grabbing a burger generally means i don't have time to do the formal thing.. but i wouldn't buy it and wait til i get on the bus to eat it..
i don't usually get things that are a big meal, just a burger so i can drop it real quick.. ya never know the situation either, maybe they finished class/work and are going to their next class/job and they only get enough time to eat on the bus.. |
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Psy
Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Location: Hongdae
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Ilsanman wrote: |
When in Rome huh?
So if in Rome, people walked on their hands and burgers eat people, you'd go along with it? You call it cultural sensitivity, I call it blind obedience. |
It's called common courtesy. Something you and alot of others don't seem to have. Ever heard of "unwritten rules?" Here's a few examples. Don't give a watch as a gift to a Chinese person because it reminds them of death. Don't go around sticking your middle finger at everyone in the U.S. People might not know that these things could be insulting due to cultural differences. Nothing to do with blind obedience.
Eating in public, especially on buses/subways, (not only Korea, but in most all Asian countries I've been to as well) is considered RUDE. Also, nothing to do with blind obedience. Rather, they know it's rude, and they still don't care. |
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wylde

Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Psy wrote: |
Ilsanman wrote: |
When in Rome huh?
So if in Rome, people walked on their hands and burgers eat people, you'd go along with it? You call it cultural sensitivity, I call it blind obedience. |
Eating in public, especially on buses/subways, (not only Korea, but in most all Asian countries I've been to as well) is considered RUDE. Also, nothing to do with blind obedience. Rather, they know it's rude, and they still don't care. |
check out my post on the page before.. it isn't rude, what is rude is your assumption.. bro, ask a korean, maybe my boss, my friend or my wife like i did before posting huh.. 3 koreans should not be wrong, they all said the same thing.. if you are korean, who told you it is rude? your english level seems to promote that you were educated outside korea.. is your argument educated or are you just defending the homeland? |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
And I'll reiterrate (irritate?), why do so many darn western folk find the undeniable NEED to eat while commuting? Can't you wait until you get home or are somewhere where it's appropriate (table, napkins, etc.) to eat? I heard that the number of auto accidents related to eating while driving has surpassed the number related to driving and talking on a cell phone. |
Maybe because it is hard to remain the world's fattest people without taking the training table with you?
I was on a flight from Chicago to Miami, which takes around 3 hours, and the (overweight) couple that sat next to me arrived with four big plastic carry-out boxes full of food. The woman promptly spilled food on her husband's seat (later in the flight she would loudly complain about how dirty the airplane was!) She was one of those fellow passengers that takes up half of your seat, too. We hadn't gotten to the end of the runway, honestly, before they tucked into their food. They ate all of that and what the airlines had to offer, too. I'm sorry, I would be so embarrassed.
The ubiquity of food in the States is unbelievable. I do eat on the run at times, and as I said in a previous post, I will take something to munch on on a bus (I tend to eat little meals and snack on nuts and such in between) but this is about uncontrolled, constant feeding. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, back in Canada the only people I recall eating on the subway were some teenagers and fat people (the bus is a different matter, for some reason). Plus it's generally understood to be a bit rude to eat in front of somebody without offering any.
The difference is back home people don't feel they have the right to express their distaste with the practice openly, only behind your back.
Be as considerate as you want to be, and live with the consequences. |
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Psy
Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Location: Hongdae
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Wylde wrote: |
check out my post on the page before.. it isn't rude, what is rude is your assumption.. bro, ask a korean, maybe my boss, my friend or my wife like i did before posting huh.. 3 koreans should not be wrong, they all said the same thing.. if you are korean, who told you it is rude? your english level seems to promote that you were educated outside korea.. is your argument educated or are you just defending the homeland? |
Dood, you, yourself should know 3 people is not a consensus opinion. To most people it is indeed considered (ok I won't say rude), but "impolite" or "having no etiquette". It should be quite obvious to most foreigners as most noone snacks on food in public except probably children. Hey, I don't have a problem with it. Munch away all you want. I just have a problem with the above analogy that Ilsanman wrote about "blind obedience" as that has nothing to do with this at all. In other words, everyone who chooses NOT to eat on a subway or bus is following the culture blindly with no clue. Which obviously makes no sense.
You can tell me if my argument is educated or if I'm just defending Korea (Asia). |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Psy wrote: |
Wylde wrote: |
check out my post on the page before.. it isn't rude, what is rude is your assumption.. bro, ask a korean, maybe my boss, my friend or my wife like i did before posting huh.. 3 koreans should not be wrong, they all said the same thing.. if you are korean, who told you it is rude? your english level seems to promote that you were educated outside korea.. is your argument educated or are you just defending the homeland? |
Dood, you, yourself should know 3 people is not a consensus opinion. To most people it is indeed considered (ok I won't say rude), but "impolite" or "having no etiquette". It should be quite obvious to most foreigners as most noone snacks on food in public except probably children. Hey, I don't have a problem with it. Munch away all you want. I just have a problem with the above analogy that Ilsanman wrote about "blind obedience" as that has nothing to do with this at all. In other words, everyone who chooses NOT to eat on a subway or bus is following the culture blindly with no clue. Which obviously makes no sense.
You can tell me if my argument is educated or if I'm just defending Korea (Asia). |
Doesn't anyone else beside me see adults eating ice cream in public all the time? Not that there's anything wrong with that... |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
And I'll reiterrate (irritate?), why do so many darn western folk find the undeniable NEED to eat while commuting? Can't you wait until you get home or are somewhere where it's appropriate (table, napkins, etc.) to eat? I heard that the number of auto accidents related to eating while driving has surpassed the number related to driving and talking on a cell phone. |
Heh, it is interesting, though. I'll never drive and eat unless I'm absolutely starving and in a hurry(pretty damn rare), but when I take the bus from Cheonan to Suwon, I usually get some sort of snack.
Maybe it's the boredom of the bus ride. I'm hungry about 2/3rds of the time that I buy snacks...the other 1/3rd is habit? I dunno... |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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desultude wrote: |
I was on a flight from Chicago to Miami, which takes around 3 hours, and the (overweight) couple that sat next to me arrived with four big plastic carry-out boxes full of food. The woman promptly spilled food on her husband's seat (later in the flight she would loudly complain about how dirty the airplane was!) She was one of those fellow passengers that takes up half of your seat, too. We hadn't gotten to the end of the runway, honestly, before they tucked into their food. They ate all of that and what the airlines had to offer, too. I'm sorry, I would be so embarrassed. |
Holy crap. And I always feel like I am given too much food on flights(save those 1 hour nips across the state or something)...I never can even finish the meals most of the time, considering I expend 0% energy on the plane and all. And they brought extra food? |
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wylde

Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Psy wrote: |
Dood, you, yourself should know 3 people is not a consensus opinion. To most people it is indeed considered (ok I won't say rude), but "impolite" or "having no etiquette". |
well seeing as though 1 is from icheon, 1 suncheon and 1 gwangju and their answers were identical. i would back what they said... it is not offensive or impolite.. who told you your info?
i think ilsanman was stabbing @ 1 of the previous posters who basically gave the impression that we should forgo everything we are and bend to be completely korean. it did give me a good laugh when i read it.
heres something else... i forget where and when exactly but i saw a family sitting on a blanket on a path with many others walking past and they were having lunch... it seemed i was the only person walking past that thought this was strange, everybody else paid no attention to them.. so, there goes the eating in public argument.. they were together, as a family eating lunch and nobody cared.... anyway i need massive amounts of coffee cuz bourbon gives a hangover 3 times worse than vodka |
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