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Jane
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 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject: Koreans' Reputation Abroad |
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My (Korean) husband says that he wants nothing to do with Koreans overseas once we move out of Korea. He says they are corrupt (in business) and deceitful.
Similarly, a friend of mine (Korean) when to a western nation, and was stung twice by corrupt and shameful business practices perpetrated by Koreans.
Has anyone else had bad experiences with dealing with Koreans abroad or are these isolated events?
The reason I'm so curious is because Koreans, not non-Koreans, have had negative experiences and I just assumed Koreans would stick together abroad. |
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NoExplode
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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There are two classes of Koreans overseas:
1. The ones who go over for a few years.
The first thing that comes to mind about Koreans overseas is "massage parlour"--as that is what 90% of the Korean women who go West end up doing.--working at the rub-n-tug.
The males there are either involved in smuggling underage prostitutes, or the honest ones are competing with Mexicans for kitchen work.
2. The ones who go over and emigrate legally are just normal folks.
Your husband is a smart man. |
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Capo
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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met a whole bunch of koreans studyuing in the uk, good people.
After living in korea, i really want to go on package holiday with a bus full of koreans to south east asia I think it would be awesome |
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Toon Army
Joined: 12 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Capo wrote: |
met a whole bunch of koreans studyuing in the uk, good people.
After living in korea, i really want to go on package holiday with a bus full of koreans to south east asia I think it would be awesome |
travelling with a bus/plane full of English chavs would be worse. Thank god they only ever go to Benidorm, Ibiza , Falliraki etc |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Most non-Koreans and especially non-Asians know bugger all about Korea. Most Asians who have dealt with Koreans consider them vulgar idiots with platinum cards, but for the most part Koreans just aren't well enough known around the world for people to develop the love-hate relationship most of us have with them. |
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Jane
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the replies. I should probably rephrase my question. I'm interested in how Koreans see their fellow Koreans who live abroad. I guess asking waeguks is not the best way to get answers to this questions, but for a lack of other channels, I've posted the question here. |
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Probably envious if the Korean has a steady job and his/her company pays for the relocation abroad. |
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ashland
Joined: 05 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| NoExplode wrote: |
There are two classes of Koreans overseas:
1. The ones who go over for a few years.
The first thing that comes to mind about Koreans overseas is "massage parlour"--as that is what 90% of the Korean women who go West end up doing.--working at the rub-n-tug.
The males there are either involved in smuggling underage prostitutes, or the honest ones are competing with Mexicans for kitchen work.
2. The ones who go over and emigrate legally are just normal folks.
Your husband is a smart man. |
a person who has a crooked mind finds no good... i feel sorry for your students (and your parents) |
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NoExplode
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| ashland wrote: |
| NoExplode wrote: |
There are two classes of Koreans overseas:
1. The ones who go over for a few years.
The first thing that comes to mind about Koreans overseas is "massage parlour"--as that is what 90% of the Korean women who go West end up doing.--working at the rub-n-tug.
The males there are either involved in smuggling underage prostitutes, or the honest ones are competing with Mexicans for kitchen work.
2. The ones who go over and emigrate legally are just normal folks.
Your husband is a smart man. |
a person who has a crooked mind finds no good... i feel sorry for your students (and your parents) |
I do too, but since I work at a University, I don't have parents to feel sorry about.
That doesn't make my statement in bold untrue. |
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julesk
Joined: 13 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| NoExplode wrote: |
There are two classes of Koreans overseas:
1. The ones who go over for a few years.
The first thing that comes to mind about Koreans overseas is "massage parlour"--as that is what 90% of the Korean women who go West end up doing.--working at the rub-n-tug.
The males there are either involved in smuggling underage prostitutes, or the honest ones are competing with Mexicans for kitchen work.
2. The ones who go over and emigrate legally are just normal folks.
Your husband is a smart man. |
A large majority of them also work in dry cleaning shops, get jobs as servers in asian restaurants or learn to do nails. Where I'm from in the US, they seem to have the market on these jobs. |
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CPJ
Joined: 30 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:55 am Post subject: |
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I don't think it makes too much of a difference where someone's from as every country has it's share of good and bad people. I think it's safe to say that Koreans don't monopolize the corrruption and deceitful market and you can just look in the news to see the Chinese milk or Ponzi scandals as an example that this stuff goes on everywhere.
I know that in Canada, there are lots of Koreans that are very helpful to new Korean immigrants or visitors just because they're Korean. That being said, I'm sure there are enough crooked Koreans living here that see new faces as easy marks and will try to take advantage of them.
My philosophy in life is that I'll be nice and helpful to anyone, whether they are Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Canadian, American, etc. as long as they are nice and polite back.
If someone asks me for directions, to borrow a few dollars or something easy, then sure I'll help as long as it doesn't bother me too much and they don't ask too often.
That being said, if I feel they are trying to scam or leetch off me, then I simply tell them "NO".
Good luck to someone if they want me to drive them somewhere every day or wants me to lend them a large sum of money. I just tell them that "I'm busy or I have lots of bills to pay this month."
Maybe that is why your husband feels the way he does as perhaps he feels he can't say, "NO" to other Koreans. I think wherever he immigrates to, he's going to run into the same feelings if he lets people push him around.
Or maybe he's just going through an anti-Korean stage. My best friend was like that when he was in his teens to mid-20s. His parents shoved Korea down his throat so much that he rejected all things Korean. Now he's married to a Korean gal and likes Korea plenty. |
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.watermelon.
Joined: 12 Jan 2009
Location: California
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| Jane wrote: |
| Thanks for the replies. I should probably rephrase my question. I'm interested in how Koreans see their fellow Koreans who live abroad. I guess asking waeguks is not the best way to get answers to this questions, but for a lack of other channels, I've posted the question here. |
i was thinking that right before i read your post.
here's the deal with los angeles koreans. i have several members of my family that own their own shops or small businesses and they would all agree that doing business with koreans is the most unpleasant. koreans as a whole generally do stick together as long as money is not involved.
for example, my father has a customer clientele that about 30% korean and 70% all other races. a couple years back he had about 3-4 of his clients that owed him over $2,000 in debt each and guess what, they were all korean.
my mother, who bought a small convenience store a while back, quickly resold the store at a lower cost because she realized that the income records were altered.
its a dog eat dog world |
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GreenlightmeansGO
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| .watermelon. wrote: |
| Jane wrote: |
| Thanks for the replies. I should probably rephrase my question. I'm interested in how Koreans see their fellow Koreans who live abroad. I guess asking waeguks is not the best way to get answers to this questions, but for a lack of other channels, I've posted the question here. |
i was thinking that right before i read your post.
here's the deal with los angeles koreans. i have several members of my family that own their own shops or small businesses and they would all agree that doing business with koreans is the most unpleasant. koreans as a whole generally do stick together as long as money is not involved.
for example, my father has a customer clientele that about 30% korean and 70% all other races. a couple years back he had about 3-4 of his clients that owed him over $2,000 in debt each and guess what, they were all korean.
my mother, who bought a small convenience store a while back, quickly resold the store at a lower cost because she realized that the income records were altered.
its a dog eat dog world |
It's a Korean eat dog world.  |
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.watermelon.
Joined: 12 Jan 2009
Location: California
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| GreenlightmeansGO wrote: |
| .watermelon. wrote: |
| Jane wrote: |
| Thanks for the replies. I should probably rephrase my question. I'm interested in how Koreans see their fellow Koreans who live abroad. I guess asking waeguks is not the best way to get answers to this questions, but for a lack of other channels, I've posted the question here. |
i was thinking that right before i read your post.
here's the deal with los angeles koreans. i have several members of my family that own their own shops or small businesses and they would all agree that doing business with koreans is the most unpleasant. koreans as a whole generally do stick together as long as money is not involved.
for example, my father has a customer clientele that about 30% korean and 70% all other races. a couple years back he had about 3-4 of his clients that owed him over $2,000 in debt each and guess what, they were all korean.
my mother, who bought a small convenience store a while back, quickly resold the store at a lower cost because she realized that the income records were altered.
its a dog eat dog world |
It's a Korean eat dog world. |
damn, i thought i deleted the last line.  |
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jennzy
Joined: 12 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:40 am Post subject: |
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whoa!!!!
i didn't even know about this!
but please tell your husband not all koreans overseas are like this!!!
its like stereotyping that all americans are hicks/rednecks (when clearly this is not true) or all canadians live in igloos (not true once again)
my family and i are korean heritage all of us were born in korea (i immigrated to canada at age 3) and let me tell you my family are not corrupted (sa gi ggune) my dad owns a japanese restaurant that is run very honestly.
it hurts me that your husband will generalize all overseas korean this way 
if anything i feel like there are more deciftful koreans in korea (from the news i hear anyways) than in foreign countries |
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