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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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crosbystillsstash
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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A middle school principal in Chungcheongbuk-do, after being found guilty of molesting a female teacher, was reinstated as principal of the school, which had had to suspend classes, and, after three months, as education researcher. �He conducted his special research without difficulty, and was reinstated when the suspension expired,� was the shocking, clumsy excuse from local authorities. What kind of �special� research can such a person do to become an educator?
Every time I see such a report I can�t help but think bitter memories of my own school days. I had many excellent teachers but there were some awful people who were just called teachers. Back then there was one male teacher who would pat our bottoms and rub our shoulders because we were �cute�. One of my friends was a favorite of his, and he would rub her cheeks and tell her to sit on his lap. When I think of it now I can see it was clearly sexual harassment, and it happened every class hour.
I hated all of those teachers and their classes, but there was really nothing I could do about it, because he was a teacher, so �you can�t step even on his shadow.� Eventually somebody told their parents about it and it became known to the school, but nothing changed. Then he became the principal and continued to teach classes. The only thing that changed was when he felt our bottoms he would say, �oh, are you going to report this, too?�
As I got older I realized how wrong it was and got really angry. If you ask your girlfriends about their experiences in school, you will find that one of them has memories of a �pervert teacher�. But it continues today. Let it slide 100 times, and perhaps the criminal can make a genuine apology, and everything that happened then can be buried. But to make that kind of person into an educator, who has to be a model for and teacher of others, is just against common sense, isn�t it?. The thought that such a light punishment will bring a halt to two years� worth of sexual molestation is a joke, but I can�t understand why the Chungcheonbuk-do Office of Education decided to smear ink on the faces of its teachers, who ought to be more respectable than anyone. The Office wasted no time attacking a post of mine protesting the teacher�s reinstatement, calling it �defamation�. Our necessary acts are someone�s defamation, apparently.
Frankly, whenever I hear of someone complaining of the drunken, sexual shenanigans of foreign ESL teachers, all I can think of are falling-down drunk businessmen, massage parlors on every corner, and articles like this, and one word comes to my mind: �projection�. |
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Yes, Korea needs to get real about the behaviour of some teachers. Standing them down, demoting them, taking away homeroom teacher duties, WTF?
I worked in Korea at a respected private school where an older girl complained about inappropriate touching to her mom. The mom approached the school, but they didn't do anything because it would damage the school's rep. The teacher is still there.
The same place has to this day a male teacher who likes to "tickle" little boys while they sit on his lap, Actually he had usually one favorite each year. He would talk down to the boy in front of others to humiliate him, and then "comfort" him by sitting him on his lap.
This was observed by teachers who complained to management and were told it was the Korean way. He will be principal one day.
Koreans push education so much, you'd think they would sort out the problem. But it's the confucian thing + face saving = head in the sand. |
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Kimchi Cha Cha
Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: was Suncheon, now Brisbane
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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I applaud the writer of this article to remove the bs and cut to the chase of the cancer the lies within this society. Present-day Korean society is fundamentally flawed largely due to abuses of power by many/most in positions of authority and power. And, due to a lack of gumption to thoroughly prosecute these wrongdoers due to antiquated Confucian beliefs that these individuals are demi-gods and should be treated as such, and that any publicity will damage the (obviously flawed) institution, place of employment, Government office, etc.
Life continues as usual, smoke and mirrors, appearance over substance, lies over truth. That is of course, until there's a convenient scapegoat to be found to take the fall. That way the general public can purge their pent-up frustrations and continue on as usual after a brief release. Meanwhile, the true culprits rise on to even greater heights. I appreciate how this writer realises that foreigners and other individuals of 'lesser standing' are often those who are pillorised when caught and/or assumed of committing seemingly common crimes (and/or transgressions, as in the case of foreign men having the nerve to hook up with Korean women) within Korean society itself.
The truth is that in Korea, more often than not, the emperor has no fricken clothes! Everyone knows this but goes out of their way to provide an elaborate charade for themselves and outsiders so the truth is never fully revealed and no face is lost as a result.
Korea really needs to challenge these deep-seated notions if it's ever to fully progress as a free democratic society where all individuals are treated equally. I hope this time comes soon and believe it will.
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Goes to show that pervs and paedos aren`t exclusive to the foreign teacher community either. A shame it`s not considered bad behavior if a Korean does it. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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From Koreanbeat, Bucheonman wrote:
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Wow. Korean teachers are like the Catholic Priests of Asia.
They�d better clean up their act. And fast |
I sense a series of lawsuits coming over the horizon. Judging by some of the teachers I've met this could bankrupt the education system.
At my public school all the teachers had to sign a paper saying they had attended a talk on sexual harassment. Non of them had attended, they were 'busy', but signed it anyway. The look of frustration on my co-teacher's face when I asked what the paper was about, and why someone who can't speak Korean would be expected to lie and say they attended was priceless 'Klogic meltdown'. I had to sign it before her head exploded. The day could then continue as normal with the geography teacher flirting with a 14yr old girl which the rest of the room remained oblivious to. |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank God this country will never exert any real influence in the world. |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank God this country will never exert any real influence in the world. |
Damn I thought you'd gone home jkelly. |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank God this country will never exert any real influence in the world. |
Damn I thought you'd gone home jkelly. |
Just 中国! Shanghai, now that's a real city. Kiss kiss sammy! |
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GreenlightmeansGO
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ED209 wrote: |
From Koreanbeat, Bucheonman wrote:
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Wow. Korean teachers are like the Catholic Priests of Asia.
They�d better clean up their act. And fast |
I sense a series of lawsuits coming over the horizon. Judging by some of the teachers I've met this could bankrupt the education system.
At my public school all the teachers had to sign a paper saying they had attended a talk on sexual harassment. Non of them had attended, they were 'busy', but signed it anyway. The look of frustration on my co-teacher's face when I asked what the paper was about, and why someone who can't speak Korean would be expected to lie and say they attended was priceless 'Klogic meltdown'. I had to sign it before her head exploded. The day could then continue as normal with the geography teacher flirting with a 14yr old girl which the rest of the room remained oblivious to. |
What would count as flirting? Could you give details of the situation? |
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Yesterday
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| Xuanzang wrote: |
| A shame it`s not considered bad behavior if a Korean does it. |
No - its not bad - you don't understand Korean culture
Its all deep-rooted Korean culture.... passed down from teacher-to-student, from boss-to-employee, from Daddy-to-daughter, from Mommy-to-son, from Hagwon-bus-driver-to-student-passenger, from any-Korean-to-any-Korean... |
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:02 am Post subject: |
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| Yesterday wrote: |
| Xuanzang wrote: |
| A shame it`s not considered bad behavior if a Korean does it. |
No - its not bad - you don't understand Korean culture
Its all deep-rooted Korean culture.... passed down from teacher-to-student, from boss-to-employee, from Daddy-to-daughter, from Mommy-to-son, from Hagwon-bus-driver-to-student-passenger, from any-Korean-to-any-Korean... |
Korea Sparkling! |
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fadedgirl
Joined: 26 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Why not?
...because that would just be too logical. |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:34 am Post subject: |
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| samd wrote: |
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| Thank God this country will never exert any real influence in the world. |
Damn I thought you'd gone home jkelly. |
Just 中国! Shanghai, now that's a real city. Kiss kiss sammy! |
lol welcome back. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| The scary thing here is that someone saying 'fire a pervert teacher' is considered a left-leaning, liberal thinker. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
| The scary thing here is that someone saying 'fire a pervert teacher' is considered a left-leaning, liberal thinker. |
True. |
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