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The latest attempt to abuse teachers
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Veritas



Joined: 30 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:16 am    Post subject: The latest attempt to abuse teachers Reply with quote

I wanted to let everyone know what the latest gag that the hogwons are trying to lay off on the foreign teachers. This one comes from YBM and if it works, other hogwans and academies will no doubt follow.

Basically, it goes like this: They get you to sign a standard contract, which by the way goes against the Korean Labor Code, they get you to sign an addendum to the contract that takes away your travel allowance, as well as reducing your completion bonus by 60 percent. If you get even one complaint, are absent without prior concent, or take more than one month personal leave, they remove the completion bonus entirely.

I am beginning to think that what we need here is a teacher�s alliance or union to protect ourselves from these unscrupulous companies.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so did you sign? Shocked

please post the contract and addendum you speak of also
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Veritas



Joined: 30 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry that I can't scan the main contract, as my scanner does not OCR Korean, but this is the text of the addendum.
And on answer to your other question, not yet.

This contract addendum has been made and entered into on ____________ by and between YBM Education Inc., YBM International Academy (hereinafter referred to as �employer�) and __________, a citizen of ______________ (hereinafter referred to as �employee�).
Article 1. Completion Bonus: Upon completion of the one-year contract period (12 consecutive sessions), the employee will receive a completion bonus of 900,000 won. If the employee decides to take a one (1) month personal leave of absence without pay, a completion bonus of 750,000 won will be paid at the end of the (11-session) contract period.
Article 2. Exclusion: The employee will not receive the completion bonus in the following cases;
2.1 In the case that the employee was absent without prior approval from the employer during the agreement period.
2.2 In the case that the employee received a warning letter from employer for infringement of the teacher�s duties or company policies as stipulated in the employment agreement or the teacher�s handbook.
2.3 In the case that the employee takes a personal leave of absence for more than one (1) month.
Article 3. Application
3.1 In the event that the employee takes sick leaves or emergency leaves more than the designated number of days which are mentioned in the agreement, the additional days will be considered as personal leaves of absence.
3.2. In the event that the employee takes a one (1) month personal leave at the session, i.e. the employee resigns from the company after the consecutive 11th session, the employee will receive 750,000 won.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you get even one complaint, are absent without prior concent, or take more than one month personal leave, they remove the completion bonus entirely.


I see nothing wrong with the two parts underlined. Unexcused absence from work and missing one month out of twelve should not be rewarded.
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really ,why bother signing? They are breaking labor law right from the very begining.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Severance pay's days are numbered.

I read that by 2011, it won't be law anymore.

I also won't be here.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
Severance pay's days are numbered.

I read that by 2011, it won't be law anymore.

I also won't be here.


Yeah, pension will replace it. But I imagine salaries would have to go up or employers will have to offer bonuses to attract teachers. Maybe.

I don't care. I won't be here either. My days are numbered in Korea.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it is law at the moment.
They would be breaking the law.
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Veritas



Joined: 30 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, I agree, they are breaking the law, but what can anyone do about it, short of not signing. Trying to get them to stick to the law is a fanciful notion. And I would like to stay there for at least one more year.
You should see the angry panic if you even mention the labor laws to the owners. They immediately freak out and threaten to fire you or not rehire you.
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hagwonnewbie



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Severance is 900,000 won?

That's bunk.

Law states it is an average of the last 3 months' pay.

I've heard that people have taken that one to the labor Board and won.

You can expect more devious activities from the hagwons as the economic crisis sinks its teeth into Korea this year.
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roam177



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is where they can nail you easily:

"2.2 In the case that the employee received a warning letter from employer for infringement of the teacher�s duties or company policies as stipulated in the employment agreement or the teacher�s handbook."

They can give you a complaint letter saying a range of things that are not true. This is indeed a tool used to reduce otherwise obligatory payments owed you.

IMO more hogwan ripoff BS. You need a helicopter to stay above it these days.
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
Ilsanman wrote:
Severance pay's days are numbered.

I read that by 2011, it won't be law anymore.

I also won't be here.


Yeah, pension will replace it. But I imagine salaries would have to go up or employers will have to offer bonuses to attract teachers. Maybe.

I don't care. I won't be here either. My days are numbered in Korea.


If the schools stop paying the severance at the end of a one year contract, very few one year contracts will get completed. Many teachers stay just to get that bonus. Take it away and they are leaving for Thailand in month 8,9 or 10.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beej wrote:
yingwenlaoshi wrote:
Ilsanman wrote:
Severance pay's days are numbered.

I read that by 2011, it won't be law anymore.

I also won't be here.


Yeah, pension will replace it. But I imagine salaries would have to go up or employers will have to offer bonuses to attract teachers. Maybe.

I don't care. I won't be here either. My days are numbered in Korea.


If the schools stop paying the severance at the end of a one year contract, very few one year contracts will get completed. Many teachers stay just to get that bonus. Take it away and they are leaving for Thailand in month 8,9 or 10.


Very true. Maybe the government won't let you collect pension if you skip out early. Sh!
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other than to catch a wife (which EVERY former male YBM worker I've ever met has done) I think you'd have to be crazy to work there, given contracts like this.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Other than to catch a wife (which EVERY former male YBM worker I've ever met has done) I think you'd have to be crazy to work there, given contracts like this.


Ooh. Catch a wife. There's a good reason to sign. Sign your fkg life away.
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