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Ondol heating in the West?
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:37 pm    Post subject: Ondol heating in the West? Reply with quote

Ok, I'm sure it's possible, and i seem to remember hearing something about it, but does anyone know actual details about 'Korean style heating' in the West? (specifically in Canada)
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Slaps



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just google "underfloor heating canada".

I know that it is becoming very popular in the UK now, especially in newly built apartment buildings.
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blade



Joined: 30 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Ondol heating in the West? Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Ok, I'm sure it's possible, and i seem to remember hearing something about it, but does anyone know actual details about 'Korean style heating' in the West? (specifically in Canada)

http://www.keeheating.co.uk/about/faq_view.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underfloor_heating

http://www.underfloorheating.ca/
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Ondol heating in the West? Reply with quote

blade wrote:

http://www.underfloorheating.ca/


awesome guys, thanks.

not sure why I didn't try variations on the premise in a google search.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been relatively common in New Zealand for at least ten years. Mostly in new homes. My family home has had it in the kitchen and bathroom for about 5 years. It's not normally used as the main heating source though.
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riverboy



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend who installs it back East... That sounds strange considering I'm living in the East.

Anyhow, it's pretty pricey, but very efficient. You can even install it in your driveway and eliminate ice build up and even shoveling to a degree.
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Stones1962



Joined: 26 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's common in Scandanavia, has been for decades, if not longer. My apartment in Prague has it.

I asked once about it in Finland and was told it has been used for centuries...who knows....
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Poemer



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it is used in the US sometimes, mostly for bathrooms though, too avoid cold feet in the winter.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get Korean-style aircons in the USA too (hang on the wall) but they want crazy amounts of money for them. I laugh when I see the prices they ask.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking of building it into a basement suite (for the in-laws).
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the_beaver



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
I was thinking of building it into a basement suite (for the in-laws).


There are a few options available. Radiant floor heating is the most common term, I think.
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riverboy



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was thinking of building it into a basement suite (for the in-laws).


If you are building the house then it won't be a problem. If you are buying it will cost you a whole lot of extra money as you will have to dig up your basement floor.
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Rusty Shackleford



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

riverboy wrote:
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I was thinking of building it into a basement suite (for the in-laws).


If you are building the house then it won't be a problem. If you are buying it will cost you a whole lot of extra money as you will have to dig up your basement floor.


For Korean style, yes. For the type used in the west, it's just heating pads placed under the carpet, tiles, lino etc.
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riverboy



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For Korean style, yes. For the type used in the west, it's just heating pads placed under the carpet, tiles, lino etc.




Not the one I'm familiar with. This one is lines of atifreeze like fluid pre placed before the floor is poured. Holes are drilled throughout the floor joyces. and the lines are run through the entier floor setting.

I'm not familiar with the one you are talking about, but it is obviously much more simple to install, but certainly more espensive to heat a house with.
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suadente



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My parents have radiant floor heating in their house.

It was expensive to install, they only put it in the kitchen and bathrooms but it cost more than their furnace that heats the rest of the house.

But would installing it in a basement be the best idea? There's still moisture in the ground in winter, and water conducts heat better than air. Wouldn't a lot of your heat get absorbed into the earth? And also, wouldn't air circulation be important in a basement? I think a forced air furnace would be better.
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