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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
Korean or NA version of warrock? I remember beta testing the NA version of warrock a couple years ago, god it sucked. There were so many problems with it. Most of it was lag related. I haven't checked out the Korean version yet. I just did wolf team for the blog (its off of hangame) its no ava, but it is kind of interesting. You can turn into a werewolf type thing on some maps, and one of the load-outs gives you a portable turret you can set up as your main weapon. Its one of the few games where you can loot the body dropped pieces for ammo (you have to hold down right click for a couple seconds). I'm going to post some video and screens in a few minutes.

Generally I find most MMORPGs boring. They almost always degenerate into grinding. Maybe its a blessing that my Korean isn't good enough to play them. I've played most several of them for short times but could never get in to them (EQ, EQ2, WoW, LOTR and probably a dozen others for at least 2-3 weeks each)


Both. I was the lead GM and CM for WarRock NA though, and yes it did suck - although i remember it was funny to spectate (and ban) the cheaters shooting from in rocks, under the map, and flying tanks around...although that was largely because NA cheaters/hacks are way more prominent than in Korea, and the Korean anti-cheat shields are a joke. I did introduce Punkbuster to WarRock but the Korean developers weren't willing to share sourcecode information with PB and hence their hands were limited in terms of the anti-cheat measures they could implement.

I think LOTRO has the best quest system in that it reduces grinding by offering quests that are non-combat but heavy in in-game lore/story. The problem i had with the quests was at the higher levels the payoffs were not worth the hours you spent doing the quest. The quests got harder, and more complex by the payoff was less.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red_Devil, I just updated again with another FPS you might like. Its called "Pointblank" from NCSoft. NCsoft allows foreign registration on the website and after playing Pointblank for a few hours yesterday I found it to be pretty fun. The Helicopter demolition map is really fun. Between AVA and Pointblank it'd be a tough call on which one I'd want to fire up.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
Red_Devil, I just updated again with another FPS you might like. Its called "Pointblank" from NCSoft. NCsoft allows foreign registration on the website and after playing Pointblank for a few hours yesterday I found it to be pretty fun. The Helicopter demolition map is really fun. Between AVA and Pointblank it'd be a tough call on which one I'd want to fire up.


Thanks, i've already spent 40 hours in AVA though and i think i'll stick with that until Star Wars: Old Republic comes out. Razz

The thing i hate about Korean FPS is that the gameplay is not equal footing. If you spend real money or get to advanced levels you can have so many more advantages through various perks...

What's your AVA name? Add me to your friends list if you're ever playing - mine is: Ninjaz
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red_devil wrote:


Thanks, i've already spent 40 hours in AVA though and i think i'll stick with that until Star Wars: Old Republic comes out. Razz

The thing i hate about Korean FPS is that the gameplay is not equal footing. If you spend real money or get to advanced levels you can have so many more advantages through various perks...

What's your AVA name? Add me to your friends list if you're ever playing - mine is: Ninjaz


I haven't really found that. Most of the cash items I see are aesthetic or things which don't really effect gameplay. Like extra clips. It sounds good, but 90% of the time I don't run out of bullets anyway. My in game name is the same. I haven't run into any big issues on AVA or Pointblank in terms of balance except that some people seem to score an unusually high percentage of head shots on me. But I usually still do pretty well. The past day I've won the map a significant amount of times in Pointblank.
I've added you as a friend on Pmang.

I think..
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
red_devil wrote:


Thanks, i've already spent 40 hours in AVA though and i think i'll stick with that until Star Wars: Old Republic comes out. Razz

The thing i hate about Korean FPS is that the gameplay is not equal footing. If you spend real money or get to advanced levels you can have so many more advantages through various perks...

What's your AVA name? Add me to your friends list if you're ever playing - mine is: Ninjaz


I haven't really found that. Most of the cash items I see are aesthetic or things which don't really effect gameplay. Like extra clips. It sounds good, but 90% of the time I don't run out of bullets anyway. My in game name is the same. I haven't run into any big issues on AVA or Pointblank in terms of balance except that some people seem to score an unusually high percentage of head shots on me. But I usually still do pretty well. The past day I've won the map a significant amount of times in Pointblank.
I've added you as a friend on Pmang.

I think..


But if you look in the item shop in-game (not website) you will see a lot of different add on's that give you armor upgrades, accuracy upgrades, EXP bonus, stopping power, etc. I also think the hitboxes are WACK. Those headshots are BS...
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

red_devil wrote:


But if you look in the item shop in-game (not website) you will see a lot of different add on's that give you armor upgrades, accuracy upgrades, EXP bonus, stopping power, etc. I also think the hitboxes are WACK. Those headshots are BS...

As cash items? I bought some armor upgrades and radar upgardes but they were in game money items. The only cash items I see in game is a shirt (but I don't think its armor), some hats, exp bonus (which doesn't really do anything, just lets you raise your rank faster) and a supply bonus. I'm not sure what supply exactly does. And a money bonus. The only way those effect gameplay is that you can get money faster than normal.. but you can still buy the same things.

I do agree the hit zones seem to be completely messed up. I'm sure I die 30-40% of the time from head shots.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
red_devil wrote:


But if you look in the item shop in-game (not website) you will see a lot of different add on's that give you armor upgrades, accuracy upgrades, EXP bonus, stopping power, etc. I also think the hitboxes are WACK. Those headshots are BS...

As cash items? I bought some armor upgrades and radar upgardes but they were in game money items. The only cash items I see in game is a shirt (but I don't think its armor), some hats, exp bonus (which doesn't really do anything, just lets you raise your rank faster) and a supply bonus. I'm not sure what supply exactly does. And a money bonus. The only way those effect gameplay is that you can get money faster than normal.. but you can still buy the same things.

I do agree the hit zones seem to be completely messed up. I'm sure I die 30-40% of the time from head shots.


All i know is that i'm a decent player but when i pump half a clip into guys and they spin around and pop 1-2 shots into me and i'm dead, the gameplay is unbalanced and they got a lot of armor. It happens to me all the time. I don't have all the armor upgrades and crap because i'm still fairly low level and spent most of my money getting good guns. But you go against these guys that have like 1000+ hours logged and they got so much armor it's ridiculous. If you've ever watched the matches, they aren't allowed to have all those add-ons so people drop pretty quickly, so that's how i know people are using a lot of these upgrades...

Is AVA the newest of this kind of FPS in Korea right now? Are there any others going into closed or open beta? I thought AVA was new but i've been seeing videos of this game going as far back as 2006...and i feel like i've kinda missed the boat on this game...
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Joined: 22 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red_devil wrote:


All i know is that i'm a decent player but when i pump half a clip into guys and they spin around and pop 1-2 shots into me and i'm dead, the gameplay is unbalanced and they got a lot of armor. It happens to me all the time. I don't have all the armor upgrades and crap because i'm still fairly low level and spent most of my money getting good guns. But you go against these guys that have like 1000+ hours logged and they got so much armor it's ridiculous. If you've ever watched the matches, they aren't allowed to have all those add-ons so people drop pretty quickly, so that's how i know people are using a lot of these upgrades...

Is AVA the newest of this kind of FPS in Korea right now? Are there any others going into closed or open beta? I thought AVA was new but i've been seeing videos of this game going as far back as 2006...and i feel like i've kinda missed the boat on this game...


Oh yeah I've seen that. Have you gotten the P90? With the P90 I seem to be doing much better. I think the difference is that body and leg shots seem to do far less damage than head shots. It might be a habit from western shooters which I used to play where it didn't matter as much but I often keep my crosshairs around mid-stomach. After I got the P90 and moved them up a bit I started doing better, but yeah I've emptied a clip a few times and wondered wtf. Wolf-team has everyone's health above their head so you can see what they were left with.

As for being the newest. Hanbiton is making a new Fantasy FPS called Warcry, I'm trying to get in to the closed beta. My guess is it'll be released within the next few months.. its the second closed beta.. so I might guess 2-3 months. They don't always have obvious release dates for things, but from what I've played so far (and I still have plenty to play) AVA and Pointblank are the two most recent games based on engines. If you ever played Hellgate London Hanbiton still runs that. They bought the IP rights to it and you can download and play it free. It is a bit of an Action RPG so there are some quests. I played the tutorial and found it a little bit much, but there is a walkthrough online you could read if you got stuck. It might have helped if I played the western version first, but it is shut down.

I'll be running through the sites to pick my next game in a couple hours. I'll see if I can find a newer fresher shooter and let you know.