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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject: understanding the NEW EPIK contract 2009 |
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I'm leaving for 2009 and I'll be returning in 2010.
But I thought this would be a nice place to discuss the new contract that
EPIK has published.
Apparently Airfare is being dropped in place of the Entrance allowance
which is a flat 1.3Mwon, and is intended to cover your airfare and other
expenses, med check and CBC etc.
Then for renewal there is no more R/T ticket with home leave but there is
a 2Mwon renewal bonus. Before you got a bonus 2Mwon plus R/T airfare.
Am I understanding this correctly?
You actually get less for renewal?
So your better off ending the contract taking a longer vacation and
returning on a new contract.
http://www.epik.go.kr/sub-2/link_url.asp?ma_url=sub_3_2
http://www.epik.go.kr/sub-2/link_url.asp?ma_url=sub_4 |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: understanding the NEW EPIK contract 2009 |
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| Jandar wrote: |
I'm leaving for 2009 and I'll be returning in 2010.
But I thought this would be a nice place to discuss the new contract that
EPIK has published.
Apparently Airfare is being dropped in place of the Entrance allowance
which is a flat 1.3Mwon, and is intended to cover your airfare and other
expenses, med check and CBC etc. |
Yes... no more airfare - instead a 'flat', 1.3 mil., "Entrance Allowance" (med check and CBC were never covered).
| Jandar wrote: |
| Then for renewal there is no more R/T ticket with home leave but there is a 2Mwon renewal bonus. |
Yes.
| Jandar wrote: |
| Before you got a bonus 2Mwon plus R/T airfare. |
No. Before, you got R/T airfare. The 2 mil. "Renewal Allowance" replaces the old airfare.
| Jandar wrote: |
| Am I understanding this correctly? |
Not really.
| Jandar wrote: |
| You actually get less for renewal? |
That will depend on the cost of airfare (my 'renewal' airfare last year - August - was almost 3 mil.)
| Jandar wrote: |
| So your better off ending the contract taking a longer vacation and returning on a new contract. |
Highly unlikely because you will loose your two-week, paid 'home leave', will not build 'seniority' for a pay raise and will have to 'jump through all the hoops' involved in getting a new visa.
Also, with holidays, the change from fourteen working to twenty-one calendar days will 'suck in' many people because it 'sounds' better. In reality, for most people, they will get less time off because holidays must be taken in: a ten-day block in summer, and an eleven-day block in winter. Figure it out... unless you're willing to start holidays on a Tuesday and end on a Thursday you will get less time off. Who wants to work the Monday before holidays and the Friday after? Plus, you will not be able to combine holidays with weekends (before and/or after), and/or 'extend' due to statutory holidays because of the use of the term "calendar" days - they're not stupid, but the know most GETs are.
They have also reduced the number of days for sick leave from fifteen to eleven.
All-in-all, a worse contract than 2008! |
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yeremy
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: Anywhere's there's a good bookstore.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: Re: 2009 Contract |
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| Hopefully, this is my last year in EPIK, so I am not really "concerned" about the new 2009 contract. I heard the housing allowance for the POE I live in went up and we get an extra day or two at the most of vacation but the rest sounds the same. |
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Cerriowen
Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Location: Pocheon
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Pretty much S.S.D.D.
Re: the 2 mil resign bonus
You get your severance pay (2m)
and a resign bonus (2m)
So if you stay a second year, when you hit 12 months, you'll get 4mil (I think...)
But fewer days off, and no vacation time to go home and see friends/family take time off etc.
Pretty sucky.
I'm with GEPIK (basically the same crappy contract) and I won't be re-signing. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| It's certainly not keeping up with inflation. I'm gone. |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you still get the 2 weeks renewal home leave? |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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I am coming back in 2010.
I'm finishing two years with EPIK.
I'll probably be going Hogwan on my next trip,
shoring up some connections as I leave.
If the EPIK contract gets better for 2010 then
I'll go EPIK again but for now I'm looking at Hogwans. |
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Cracker006
Joined: 11 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| Do you still get the 2 weeks renewal home leave? |
Negatory  |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| marlow wrote: |
| It's certainly not keeping up with inflation. I'm gone. |
I'm hearing that EPIK will jack-up the base salary by 200K for all levels. |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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I wish GEPIK would introduce the allowances into their contracts.
I'd much prefer getting paid a set amount as an "exit bonus" and plan my travels how I please than be forced to take a ticket home or forfeit. (in the case of teachers who don't renew but choose to stay in Korea)
This year I renewed my contract and my round-trip airfare cost 1.3mill, with 2 mill as a renewal bonus, that would have been 700K in my pocket. (or the fact that when I started my job, I was already in Korea, so the school didn't pay airfare, another 1.3mill in my pocket) |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Cracker006 wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| Do you still get the 2 weeks renewal home leave? |
Negatory |
Yes, you do! |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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They have to give the two weeks home leave. It was put in there to stop people from taking big breaks between contracts.
Before they put that in people use to take one and two month holidays between contracts and they needed to find a way to get people to stick around. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Ramen wrote: |
| marlow wrote: |
| It's certainly not keeping up with inflation. I'm gone. |
I'm hearing that EPIK will jack-up the base salary by 200K for all levels. |
From whom? It would be nice... but I'm not holding my breath. |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| Cracker006 wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| Do you still get the 2 weeks renewal home leave? |
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Yes, you do! |
Yes you do but you pay your own R/T airfare.
The 2008 contract you got a Renewal bonus 1 month pay plus a R/T ticket home leave combo. That's a deal killer. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| Ramen wrote: |
| marlow wrote: |
| It's certainly not keeping up with inflation. I'm gone. |
I'm hearing that EPIK will jack-up the base salary by 200K for all levels. |
From whom? It would be nice... but I'm not holding my breath. |
For 2009? Because they can't get teachers? |
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