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I-am-me
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom
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 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:34 am Post subject: GEPIK app denied! |
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Gepik denied my application. My 4 years of hagwon experience didn't cut it I guess. Does anyone know if I can still apply to GEPIK through a recruiter or is it back to Hagwon duty for me?  |
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TheChickenLover
Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: The Chicken Coop
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:37 am Post subject: |
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EPIK, SMOE, GEPIK do NOT consider hogwan experience as valid. These are essentially unaccredited private schools with little to no standards that many are essentially glorified babysitters while others are actual hard working people in private schools.
If you want valid experience, you need to be hired from an ACCREDITED institution to be respect and valued. Hogwans are a waste of time if you want credit for your time served here.
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I-am-me
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Point well taken. I did do one year of public after-school program. Maybe it was the interview questions like what would I do if the heater didnt work and landlord didnt speak english?  |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:46 am Post subject: |
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| Try for a job in Epik. Lots of jobs still available. |
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maingman
Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:54 am Post subject: , |
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Try for a job in Epik. Lots of jobs still available.
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valkerie
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:09 am Post subject: |
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GEPIK were happy to accept my year in a hogwon here towards the (proven) hours necessary to qualify for a higher pay rate.
Think it must have been the interview answers....if the heater q was real q would love to hear your answer  |
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| Answer: Immediately quit your job and go work somewhere where the management respects teachers enough to give them an apartment with adequate heating. |
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Dodgy Al
Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| TheChickenLover wrote: |
EPIK, SMOE, GEPIK do NOT consider hogwan experience as valid. These are essentially unaccredited private schools with little to no standards that many are essentially glorified babysitters while others are actual hard working people in private schools.
If you want valid experience, you need to be hired from an ACCREDITED institution to be respect and valued. Hogwans are a waste of time if you want credit for your time served here.
Chicken |
NOT true. With regards to SMOE, as long as you have proof of employment, it counts. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| Dodgy Al wrote: |
| TheChickenLover wrote: |
EPIK, SMOE, GEPIK do NOT consider hogwan experience as valid. These are essentially unaccredited private schools with little to no standards that many are essentially glorified babysitters while others are actual hard working people in private schools.
If you want valid experience, you need to be hired from an ACCREDITED institution to be respect and valued. Hogwans are a waste of time if you want credit for your time served here.
Chicken |
NOT true. With regards to SMOE, as long as you have proof of employment, it counts. |
Seconded. |
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DeLaRed
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| TheChickenLover wrote: |
EPIK, SMOE, GEPIK do NOT consider hogwan experience as valid. These are essentially unaccredited private schools with little to no standards that many are essentially glorified babysitters while others are actual hard working people in private schools.
If you want valid experience, you need to be hired from an ACCREDITED institution to be respect and valued. Hogwans are a waste of time if you want credit for your time served here.
Chicken |
so you would have to start on the base salary of a measly 1.8 as hagwon work does not count? |
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John_ESL_White
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| TheChickenLover wrote: |
EPIK, SMOE, GEPIK do NOT consider hogwan experience as valid. These are essentially unaccredited private schools with little to no standards that many are essentially glorified babysitters while others are actual hard working people in private schools.
If you want valid experience, you need to be hired from an ACCREDITED institution to be respect and valued. Hogwans are a waste of time if you want credit for your time served here.
Chicken |
lol. credit for time served....where? outside of Korea? No.
What do you get for three years in a public school when you trnsfer to another PS? 100,000 more a month or 200,000/ more per month? wow.
I'll put my "unaccredited private schools with little to no standards that many are essentially glorified babysitters" up against your government job any day when it comes to pay raises.
I came here at 2.1 and just landed a job at 3.3. The private sector ALWAYS pays the better trained a higher wage than than the public sector. ALWAYS. You just have to have the right references and the skills.
1st year 2.1 + extra pay inside the hagwon for doing non-teaching stuff
2nd year 2.5 + extra pay outside of my hagwon for teaching
3rd year 3.0 + extra work oustide of the hagwon for teaching and editing
4th year 3.3 for teaching + +++++ for outside work
what are the public school pay grades again? 1.8 - 2.5? How do you look yourself in the mirror without puking everyday? |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| TheChickenLover wrote: |
EPIK, SMOE, GEPIK do NOT consider hogwan experience as valid. These are essentially unaccredited private schools with little to no standards that many are essentially glorified babysitters while others are actual hard working people in private schools.
If you want valid experience, you need to be hired from an ACCREDITED institution to be respect and valued. Hogwans are a waste of time if you want credit for your time served here.
Chicken |
That has nothing to do with an application being denied. People can get those jobs with no experience. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| TheChickenLover wrote: |
| EPIK, SMOE, GEPIK do NOT consider hogwan experience as valid. |
Not true! I know people in EPIK who's hogwan experience was considered valid and bumped them up a pay level. |
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TheChickenLover
Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: The Chicken Coop
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| TheChickenLover wrote: |
| EPIK, SMOE, GEPIK do NOT consider hogwan experience as valid. |
Not true! I know people in EPIK who's hogwan experience was considered valid and bumped them up a pay level. |
I was speaking from my own EPIK experience with the interview where I was told that.
I stand corrected in noting that this can be very much up to the interviewer involved.
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| John_ESL_White wrote: |
| TheChickenLover wrote: |
EPIK, SMOE, GEPIK do NOT consider hogwan experience as valid. These are essentially unaccredited private schools with little to no standards that many are essentially glorified babysitters while others are actual hard working people in private schools.
If you want valid experience, you need to be hired from an ACCREDITED institution to be respect and valued. Hogwans are a waste of time if you want credit for your time served here.
Chicken |
lol. credit for time served....where? outside of Korea? No. |
I have two years of hogwan experience on a public school license in the US. It's all about how you document and present it. |
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